David Starkey puts both feet in his gob.

Started by papasmurf, July 03, 2020, 10:35:46 AM

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papasmurf

Quote from: johnofgwent on July 03, 2020, 04:45:49 PM

far from it. The ledgers kept at the time made it clear the plantation owners were more than happy they bred like rabbits so as to increase the investment in the resource.

The plantation  owners /overseers committed rape on a regular basis to make more slaves.
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Javert

By the pure dictionary definition of the word genocide, technically he is correct, but the way he phrased it and his tone of voice makes him sound like a total racist, which I suspect he is.

According to the dictionary genocide is:

QuoteThe systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.

Slavery cannot really meet that definition because it's in the financial interest of the slave owner to keep the race going.  However his phrasing and attitude seems to indicate a total lack of empathy or humanity.

johnofgwent

Quote from: papasmurf on July 03, 2020, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: johnofgwent on July 03, 2020, 11:51:53 AM
Accurate though.



Did you read all of the link though?

I did. The jew whingeing about him was the reason i commented about their refusal to accept the tutsi v hutu slaughter as fit to be remembered in january.

The Council of British Jewry or whatever the hell they call themselves realised just how far their Chief Rabbi had put his foot in his mouth and retracted the denial of such events being worthy fo note at the same time as their holocaust a year or two later.

But on a point of fact.

Slavery was most certainly NOT intended to cause the extinction of the enslaved.

far from it. The ledgers kept at the time made it clear the plantation owners were more than happy they bred like rabbits so as to increase the investment in the resource.
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Borchester

Quote from: patman post on July 03, 2020, 01:14:04 PM
Anyone who's listened to Starkey on discussion programmes like BBC's The Moral Maze cannot fail to notice how he likes to play the role of a spiteful queen. But I do find his solo TV historical documentaries illuminating and interesting...

I think that a lot of it is to do with him being a spiteful queen. But as you, he does put on a good show. And he knows the value of publicity. He has been publicly dropped by his publishers but still has a book coming out in September and I doubt that this fuss will do the sales any harm.
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Anyone who's listened to Starkey on discussion programmes like BBC's The Moral Maze cannot fail to notice how he likes to play the role of a spiteful queen. But I do find his solo TV historical documentaries illuminating and interesting...
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Borchester

Quote from: papasmurf on July 03, 2020, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: johnofgwent on July 03, 2020, 11:51:53 AM
Accurate though.



Did you read all of the link though?

The bit about the slave trade not being genocide? Yeah. If it were there would not be any blacks anywhere. Makes sense.
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papasmurf

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johnofgwent

Accurate though.

Who said it was genocide ?

Genocide was when The Tutsi and Hutu blacks set about extermination each other. One side started it but could not bring themselves to kill the children.

Twenty years later the children they failed to kill rose up.and slaughtered the children of their fathers killers.

They too could not bring themselves to kill the children of those they slow.

Twenty years later the grandchildren of the original killers rose up and this time they would do it properly. Which is why the bleeding heart liberal.papers front pages were filled with images of a black man bringing a machete down on the head of a black girl of about seven and then throwing her still living but already making the twitches of death form offvthe bridge he had dragged her to for the slaughter into the mud red river below. The red colour increasingly not just from the mud as he was far from the only one.

Strangely, the Chief Rabbi refused to call these acts of genocide and refused to acknowledge the victims of that six decades of  black on black killing as having a place to be remembered in his newly resurrected 'shamefest' henceforth to be called 'holocaust memorial day'.
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cromwell

Quote from: papasmurf on July 03, 2020, 10:35:46 AM
A comment too far:-

More at link:-

https://news.sky.com/story/david-starkeys-so-many-damn-blacks-comment-is-indefensible-12020107

Friday 3 July 2020 09:47, UK


During the interview, Starkey said: "Slavery was not genocide otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain, would there?
What a tosser.
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papasmurf

A comment too far:-

More at link:-

https://news.sky.com/story/david-starkeys-so-many-damn-blacks-comment-is-indefensible-12020107

Friday 3 July 2020 09:47, UK


During the interview, Starkey said: "Slavery was not genocide otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain, would there?
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