Journalists, don't be part of the government's 'fake news' machine

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patman post

#55
October 31, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3273 time=1572522146 user_id=89
How would I know that.



You may be interested in this letter by the chair of the Work and Pensions Committee before the "advertorials" appeared:-



https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/work-and-pensions/Correspondence/Letter%20from%20FF-to-Amber-Rudd.pdf">https://www.parliament.uk/documents/com ... r-Rudd.pdf">https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/work-and-pensions/Correspondence/Letter%20from%20FF-to-Amber-Rudd.pdf

You appear to  know that everyone concerned was acting illegally and immorally, so I thought you'd be aware of Metro journalists' employment terms.



The letter is old and mostly asks questions we already know the answers to...
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patman post

#54
October 31, 2019, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3280 time=1572525064 user_id=89
Journalists are also critical at the bottom of this link:-



https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/metro-universal-credit-advert-condemned-as-propaganda-and-insult-to-disabled-people/">https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/metro-un ... ed-people/">https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/metro-universal-credit-advert-condemned-as-propaganda-and-insult-to-disabled-people/


Do we know they're journalists, and not campaigners with axes to grind...?
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papasmurf

#53
October 31, 2019, 12:31:04 PM
Journalists are also critical at the bottom of this link:-



https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/metro-universal-credit-advert-condemned-as-propaganda-and-insult-to-disabled-people/">https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/metro-un ... ed-people/">https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/metro-universal-credit-advert-condemned-as-propaganda-and-insult-to-disabled-people/
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papasmurf

#52
October 31, 2019, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: "patman post" post_id=3272 time=1572521510 user_id=70
What Metro journalists were involved in this way without it being clear this was advertising from DWP...?


How would I know that.



You may be interested in this letter by the chair of the Work and Pensions Committee before the "advertorials" appeared:-



https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/work-and-pensions/Correspondence/Letter%20from%20FF-to-Amber-Rudd.pdf">https://www.parliament.uk/documents/com ... r-Rudd.pdf">https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/work-and-pensions/Correspondence/Letter%20from%20FF-to-Amber-Rudd.pdf
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patman post

#51
October 31, 2019, 11:31:50 AM
What Metro journalists were involved in this way without it being clear this was advertising from DWP...?
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papasmurf

#50
October 31, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: "patman post" post_id=3269 time=1572520774 user_id=70
Link to Metro journalists needing to write advertising copy to place in editorial space — in this case specifically for the DWP...


The DWP does the writing, (that is why the advertisements masquerading a news items are easy to spot.) all the journalists can do is put there name at the start.
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patman post

#49
October 31, 2019, 11:19:34 AM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3265 time=1572519638 user_id=89
Link to what? If the proprietor asks them to jump they say how high.

Link to Metro journalists needing to write advertising copy to place in editorial space — in this case specifically for the DWP...
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papasmurf

#48
October 31, 2019, 11:00:38 AM
Quote from: "patman post" post_id=3264 time=1572519535 user_id=70Link...?


Link to what? If the proprietor asks them to jump they say how high.
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patman post

#47
October 31, 2019, 10:58:55 AM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3261 time=1572519364 user_id=89
The journalists/editors face the sack if they don't co-operate.

Link...?
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Barry

#46
October 31, 2019, 10:56:20 AM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3254 time=1572518408 user_id=89
(That type of advertisement appears on this forum as well.

That's not true. There are no adverts at all on this forum.
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papasmurf

#45
October 31, 2019, 10:56:04 AM
Quote from: "patman post" post_id=3260 time=1572519251 user_id=70
Again your giving info from the complainer and not the ASA.

Incidentally, none of the complaints seem to finger journalists or the Metro's editorial...


The journalists/editors face the sack if they don't co-operate.
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patman post

#44
October 31, 2019, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3247 time=1572515339 user_id=89
The ASA has not made a decision yet.



The specifics of the complaint:-



https://disabilitybenefitsconsortium.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/dbc-letter-to-the-advertising-standards-authority-asa/">https://disabilitybenefitsconsortium.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/dbc-letter-to-the-advertising-standards-authority-asa/


Again your giving info from the complainer and not the ASA.

Incidentally, none of the complaints seem to finger journalists or the Metro's editorial...
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papasmurf

#43
October 31, 2019, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: Barry post_id=3253 time=1572518055 user_id=51
Is this the sort of advert you complain about. It was displayed several times on that linked page.



https://i.ibb.co/4WyWwtY/Misleading-ad.jpg">

(That type of advertisement appears on this forum as well.



Did you bother to read the complaint?
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Barry

#42
October 31, 2019, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: papasmurf post_id=3247 time=1572515339 user_id=89
The ASA has not made a decision yet.



The specifics of the complaint:-



https://disabilitybenefitsconsortium.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/dbc-letter-to-the-advertising-standards-authority-asa/">https://disabilitybenefitsconsortium.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/dbc-letter-to-the-advertising-standards-authority-asa/

Is this the sort of advert you complain about. It was displayed several times on that linked page.



https://i.ibb.co/4WyWwtY/Misleading-ad.jpg">
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papasmurf

#41
October 31, 2019, 09:48:59 AM
Quote from: "patman post" post_id=3245 time=1572515158 user_id=70
Again you're giving info via a complainer and not linking to ASA.




The ASA has not made a decision yet.



The specifics of the complaint:-



https://disabilitybenefitsconsortium.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/dbc-letter-to-the-advertising-standards-authority-asa/">https://disabilitybenefitsconsortium.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/dbc-letter-to-the-advertising-standards-authority-asa/
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