Second wave this winter

[patman post]

It's astonishing how many people still talk this pandemic down.

I guess it's to be expected. But it does seem perverse when virtually the whole industrialised world is affected — not only healthwise, but economically too. Companies are going bust. Others are reducing their headcounts. Authorities in advanced countries across the world have instigated restrictions and lockdowns that will ultimately cost trillions.
Surely they're not all being panicked by a bad dream or scam or controlled by some massive international conspiracy...?

PS — browsing https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/live-updates-coronavirus-covid-19#1 collects world views on what's happening without lurid headlines. It's obviously done from a medical point of view rather than political — but that doesn't seem a bad thing

[Thomas]

You say its astonishing the people who talk this virus down , i say its astonishing the amount of hysterics and drama queens ramping it up.

You would say that wouldn't you.

Touche!

Thats the whole nub of my argument wae you , if you can rely on anyone to make a drama out of a crises it will be you with your track record over the years( and dodgy predictions)

[Sheepy]

You say its astonishing the people who talk this virus down , i say its astonishing the amount of hysterics and drama queens ramping it up.

You would say that wouldn't you.

Well when the very people who you have taken your expert lead from, make U-turns because they realise they weren't experts at all, I guess it is time people wised up Ducky, not you obviously.

[HDQQ]

You say its astonishing the people who talk this virus down , i say its astonishing the amount of hysterics and drama queens ramping it up.

You would say that wouldn't you.

[Sheepy]

Frankly, when no money is in the kitty to pay the pension, lets see what frankly means then. Or those criminals who are nicking everything that isn't bolted down grow in numbers by 200%.

[Thomas]

Frankly I knew there were idiots in the population, but not as many as have come out of the woodwork with the it is only the Chinese sniffles nonsense.

whit you moaning about now?

You have hankies and lemsips to help dont you if you catch the sniffles?

[papasmurf]

It's astonishing how many people still talk this pandemic down.

Frankly I knew there were idiots in the population, but not as many as have come out of the woodwork with the it is only the Chinese sniffles nonsense. They will be joined by the anti-vaccinators in the not too distant future.

[Thomas]

It looks like the second wave might be upon us already. The 7 day moving average has been rising slowly but steadily since early July. Very similar to how things were in early March. Other countries are in second waves - Iran has been for some weeks. Spain has had a big increase in cases in the last two weeks. And then, of course, there's the USA, where the second wave has been much bigger than the first one, although it's mostly affected different states from the first wave. If what we're seeing here now is a second wave, that will probably be past its peak by winter but there's always the possibility of a third wave.

It's almost as if we've learned nothing from the first wave. Lockdown couldn't go on for ever but far too many people are ignoring social distancing or not wearing masks or both. The message should be to stay at home and minimise non-essential contact with other people.

One one side there's the 45,000 deaths associated with covid-19 and the large number of people who have survived being seriously ill. On the other there's the prospect of bankruptcy for countless businesses, large or small. But another thing we might have to face is large numbers of people who a chronically ill and unable to work after having covid-19 since nobody really knows the long-term effect of the virus yet.

It's astonishing how many people still talk this pandemic down.

Well we will see quackers.

Bearing in mind you are not the most reliable at predicting future events , as we have discussed many a time , and are quite happy to jump on the outrage bus and whip up hysteria when it suits , so im no sure you are the most reliable person to listen to when talking about a second wave.

Im again not sure who exactly are all these folk ignoring lockdown rules , not wearing masks appropriately and ignoring social distancing. Anecdotally , in my area this isnt the case , and of course , if like many of your generation you believe everything you read in the media , you might want to actually fact check who is ignoring rules and why this is happening.

In your country , we seem to have had localised break outs of the virus in certain hostspots that have been discussed now for the past few weeks regarding asian sweatshops in leicester for example.

On top of this , leitch , witty and other so called experts did advise a while back from memeory , as well as the WHO , as the world opened up it was obvious there was going to be outbreaks and small surges in the virus , and this was unavoidable.

I think we will have to wait and see , and hope for the best , but as i said earlier ,this virus isnt going anywhere until it either works through everyone on this planet or there is a vaccine.

In the meantime we will be living with it and all doing our best to go about our lives as normal as we can.

You say its astonishing the people who talk this virus down , i say its astonishing the amount of hysterics and drama queens ramping it up.

[HDQQ]

It looks like the second wave might be upon us already. The 7 day moving average has been rising slowly but steadily since early July. Very similar to how things were in early March. Other countries are in second waves - Iran has been for some weeks. Spain has had a big increase in cases in the last two weeks. And then, of course, there's the USA, where the second wave has been much bigger than the first one, although it's mostly affected different states from the first wave. If what we're seeing here now is a second wave, that will probably be past its peak by winter but there's always the possibility of a third wave.

It's almost as if we've learned nothing from the first wave. Lockdown couldn't go on for ever but far too many people are ignoring social distancing or not wearing masks or both. The message should be to stay at home and minimise non-essential contact with other people.

One one side there's the 45,000 deaths associated with covid-19 and the large number of people who have survived being seriously ill. On the other there's the prospect of bankruptcy for countless businesses, large or small. But another thing we might have to face is large numbers of people who a chronically ill and unable to work after having covid-19 since nobody really knows the long-term effect of the virus yet.

It's astonishing how many people still talk this pandemic down.

[GregB]

I reckon that we are going to miss this bug when it is gone.

You have a point, I might have to go back to the office.

[papasmurf]

I reckon that we are going to miss this bug when it is gone.

The seven day fatality rate has been falling for the last 16 weeks and an insignificant minority is still hiding under the bed and masturbating itself into into a frenzy over the bug. I imagine that it is too late to suggest research be conducted upon providing back bone via the NHS, but possibly the government should consider contracting out its horror stories to Hammer House of Horror. Peter Cushing can't help but do a better job than poor old Matt Hancock and a lot of us would be a damn sight readier to cheer Hazel Court than the NHS

I am not going to miss the bastards making light of it.

[Borchester]

I reckon that we are going to miss this bug when it is gone.

The seven day fatality rate has been falling for the last 16 weeks and an insignificant minority is still hiding under the bed and masturbating itself into into a frenzy over the bug. I imagine that it is too late to suggest research be conducted upon providing back bone via the NHS, but possibly the government should consider contracting out its horror stories to Hammer House of Horror. Peter Cushing can't help but do a better job than poor old Matt Hancock and a lot of us would be a damn sight readier to cheer Hazel Court than the NHS

[Javert]

As far as I understand, the Oxford team have not claimed that their testing is complete - they have been very clear that a double blind trial is in progress in the UK and is starting in several other countries - they are not claiming success or completion.

Also - waning antibody levels doesn't necessarily mean no protection - that's why the further trials are needed.

That said, it's entirely possible that whatever vaccines we have in the next year or two will be temporary ones that need to be re-administered regularly - we don't know yet.

[papasmurf]

Well there is an amusing side Barry, Boris has taken a jog to Scotland so he can tell the Scottish National Socialists that it was him who saved the Scots from a Covid worse than death. But alas the SNP has been advertising it was them all along who did the great deed, not purely political of course.

I wonder how much close protection Bojo The Clown will have when he is in Scotland.

[Sheepy]

Would that be like the same 500,000 in the UK who were going to die in the first wave?

Well - PHE have been doing their best to bump up the figures, but they've not managed 10% of that, have they?

Well there is an amusing side Barry, Boris has taken a jog to Scotland so he can tell the Scottish National Socialists that it was him who saved the Scots from a Covid worse than death. But alas the SNP has been advertising it was them all along who did the great deed, not purely political of course.