What schools are for

[Churchill]

I do understand how it works, what I am having some difficulty understanding is how you work :-?

[Baron von Lotsov]

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Our Education is Free at the point of use for state educated pupils

So is Google, but you do pay for it. Surely you understand the way the free con works?

[Churchill]

Free is anti-capitalist

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Our Education is Free at the point of use for state educated pupils

[Baron von Lotsov]

It is desperation of head teachers due underfunding of schools.

They will always be underfunded when these good-for-nothings demand better and better paid jobs for talking crap.



How many teachers have you seen sacked for incompetence in the state sector so far? If many of those schools were in the free education market they would have gone bust. The socialist system has grown into a monster eating up the national tax budget. check the figures if you don't believe me.

[Baron von Lotsov]

I do know how kids communicate having reared them, with both of us working we could not afford private tuition but ours are in good well paid jobs now,

Can they afford private tuition?



Besides the reason you could not afford it is because the system you have been through is horrendously inefficient. For a start you would have been made to pay twice. You would have been made to pay to teach them government values, not your own. What we see is a one-size-fits-all system which is far less efficient than a customised solution. This is a general rule which if ignored will and probably has cost you dearly.



 I see this problem all the time. My work means that I get paid according to how I run things, and if i run things efficiently my income goes up. When i buy products for my business they are products made for a wide range of customers, like most products are. I often disassemble them, re-engineer them and actually use a modified version of the product. This is because a key component in my business must work as well as it can, and nothing on the market will fit the requirements perfectly, hence it is like a money leak. As it is used it wastes money, so I modify it to work optimally. It's a very important concept. Never discount the losses incurred by mismatch of some part in a system. Also never ever bloody well follow what other people do! This country is sht-for-brains. You have to think these things through with your own precision. This is how I compete.

[papasmurf]

It's insatiable greed.

It is desperation of head teachers due underfunding of schools.

[Baron von Lotsov]

I think anyone with children at a State school would disagree with that, transport to school costs in rural areas, begging letters from the head teacher for various school kit, activities  that the state is no longer funding due to cuts.

It's insatiable greed. Send a letter back informing them that the bill has already been paid, via HMRC.



The truth is they have employed their mates in non-jobs. One at a local college called Strode College is a "quality control manager" even though in reality she is a manageress if at all.

[Baron von Lotsov]

Its the NHS paid for by the taxpayers even those who do not have children and Free at point of use

Free is anti-capitalist

[Churchill]

I do know how kids communicate having reared them, with both of us working we could not afford private tuition but ours are in good well paid jobs now, do you have kids?

[Baron von Lotsov]

If that is a snapshot of your early fine, but think outside of the box one size does not fit all, most Mothers cannot afford to stay at home tied to the kitchen sink, nor private tuition fees, nor does it necessary mean that sons will follow their Dads occupation those days are long gone for most, nor does it mean their daughters will be tied to a kitchen sink.

I was going to add to that, that the kid learns to communicate via his mother as well. His mother has different skills. She's more artistically minded and can speak numerous languages and so on. So kid gets his early reading and writing skills from his mother. it won't be in the kitchen either, because father is making enough money so they have a nice place to live, built by someone who was a kid once and did the same in his father's building trade.



You can afford things like tuition fees by making your operation more efficient. Kid never wastes time colouring in maps or being taught Shakespearian dramas.

[Churchill]

If that is a snapshot of your early fine, but think outside of the box one size does not fit all, most Mothers cannot afford to stay at home tied to the kitchen sink, nor private tuition fees, nor does it necessary mean that sons will follow their Dads occupation those days are long gone for most, nor does it mean their daughters will be tied to a kitchen sink.



Children are quite capable of thinking for themselves days working in the field they want to and where

[Baron von Lotsov]

In this day and age children need the basic building blocks the three R's at least to give them any chance of obtaining a reasonable job, the days when lots of manual work was plentiful that needed more physical strength than reading and writing are long gone.



My children did not know what they wanted to do until much later in the education system roughly 16 years of age, two of our younger grandchildren have no idea what they want to do eventually.



They do know that the more qualifications you have means you have a larger selection of types of work far more than few or no qualifications

Do a little thought experiment. Kid starts life in a family where the mother looks after the house and cooks the food and the father has his own garage. He makes money via engineering. He strips down engines, re-bores cylinder heads and alls sorts of stuff and had many wealthy customers and is doing alright. Kid as a toddler is looked after by mother, but as he get s a little older he likes to visit his father. He wants to emulate his father, and his father says, look here is a simple job, sort all of those nuts and bolts out into those draws for me, and kid gets into it. Bit by bit kid learns more difficult jobs and the father makes more money because he has a hand to help him, and increasingly so as the kid gets better at it. Of course he is always loyal to his father and loves him, so he will always try and do his best.



Later on the father is getting more sophisticated, and buys in computer controlled machinery and has some money behind him. Kid is getting to the point where he needs training in mathematics, mechanics and all these things, so the father sends him off to a private tutor and the tutor customises his tutoring to the father's requirements. By the age of 19 kid is so damn clever he buys his own engineering business!

[Churchill]

Education has never been free in this country. The collection agency comes via a different name though.

Its the NHS paid for by the taxpayers even those who do not have children and Free at point of use

[Churchill]

Lets just say, at school, my observations jarred with what the teachers told us. I was a budding empiricist from about the age zero.

If you say so :roll:

[Baron von Lotsov]

It may not be relevant to you but it maybe to others it is a known fact that schools of one sort or another go way back in time, as for going to school I knew why I was there no mystery , why didn't you know ?

Lets just say, at school, my observations jarred with what the teachers told us. I was a budding empiricist from about the age zero.