General Brexit discussion thread

[Borg Refinery]

..See what I mean?

Brexit sorted in an instant, freedom for important parts of the country etc sorted with snide comments immediately life's golden which is why I soent all xmas commenting on people who weren't here.  One may be an immigrant joke but never let that deter you from the important things in life, you can succeed even in Hertfordshire if you put your mind to it, or even Motherwell.

[Thomas]

We can get the children to kill Brexit for us with mean little comments!

boo hoo dyno , still upset about life?

Know any immgrant jokes mate to make us laugh?

[Borg Refinery]

Don't worry. 


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-suffolk-55593308

All will be alright for millions of SME's up and down the country.

We can get the snide, insidious, petulant, beguiling and delusive types to sort this out very easily, with sneering and as snidey as possible comments. 

That will definitely make it all go away!

I just make hidey sneaky, condescending and insulting remarks at Brexit paperwork or anything I don't like and it fills itself in. Maybe if we're all really snide towards it will leave us alone?



We can get the children to kill Brexit for us with mean little comments!

[papasmurf]

Learn to read before you come with your smart answers.
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You asked a question, and I answered it. What is your problem?

[GerryT]

Never mind what they have ordered, what have they got and how many have been administered?
Not so many and about half a million, but you keep telling your self how great they are. We don't care.

I don't know Nick, I haven't found a site with that spelt out.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
This shows how much each country has administered, you can count the 27 EU countries if you want, but most have only being administering since approval on 21st Dec. Very early days, lets see how things are in a couple of months. We will be all still vaccinating at the end of this yr, anyone says different is lying.

The UK went early, it received more vaccine per person because it was ahead of the pack. Now most countries have a strong demand and manufacturing is struggling to supply and meet demand. Deliveries are far harder to get because of that demand.

Interestingly the AZ vaccine is the most popular with 2.6B purchases, prob being the cheapest helps. France is very slow to administer with bureaucracy and people being very sceptical being the key reasons and not taking the vaccine, they have over 1m doses to administer and people are slow to step up.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/tracking-covid-19-vaccines-around-the-world/

At the end of the day its about reducing deaths. That's the key metric

[Nick]

Don't  you watch the daily briefing?

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/01/COVID-19-daily-announced-vaccinations-12-January-2021.xlsx

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[papasmurf]

how many have been administered?

Don't  you watch the daily briefing?

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/01/COVID-19-daily-announced-vaccinations-12-January-2021.xlsx

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[Nick]

I haven't seen prices but what I read was all vaccines cost a different price, the AZ one being much cheaper than the Pfizer one. But Johnson bought 40 million of the Pfizer Vaccine and the EU have a po for 300m of the AZ one. The EU has PO's with 7 c19 companies and so does the UK, the point being the UK is paying a higher price, most likely because it's purchasing 10 times less. Your point is mute.

My earlier point to toots is C19 is not a competition, that the EU is not sitting on it's laurels, jsy because a USA/EU company made the first vaccine and the UK rushed the approval process doesn't make the UK a world beater. People all over the world have been working to find a way out of this.

Never mind what they have ordered, what have they got and how many have been administered?
Not so many and about half a million, but you keep telling your self how great they are. We don't care.

[Borg Refinery]

They just move goalposts and lie in every single sentence constantly, it's like compulsive or sumthin'. It's farmlands worth of black sheep shite sprayed everywhere with random garden ornaments plunging headfirst in it thanks to the wind, with bits of half digested ugly haggis sticking out for good measure..

Boris Johnson vowed the UK 'will not have any barriers to trade with the EU' ... but a Defra job listing suggests otherwise

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THE UK Government has been accused of "becoming a parody of itself" after contradicting one of Boris Johnson's key Brexit promises in a job advert.

A listing for a top trade role at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) includes the term "technical trade barriers" in the job description – despite the Prime Minister vowing as recently as December 30 that there would be no such thing.

The £71,000 Defra role – EU and international trade deputy director – is said to cover "trade policy, trade strategy, trade implementation and trade negotiations".

The advert continues: "This includes, but may not be restricted to, roles that cover the following areas: Trade Policy, including biosecurity standards (also known as sanitary and phytosanitary standards), environment and sustainability, technical barriers to trade."

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And yet less than two weeks ago, Johnson insisted in a BBC interview that his Brexit deal ensured the UK "will not have any barriers to trade with the EU".

The agreement struck with Brussels introduces considerable trade obstacles in the form of customs declarations, export health checks, regulatory checks, rules of origin checks and conformity assessments.

Urged to admit there will be additional barriers for businesses, Johnson conceded merely that there "will be changes".

SNP MSP Joan McAlpine condemned the UK Government over the contradiction highlighted in the job advert.

She told The National: "This Tory government is becoming a parody of itself as it now admits there will be technical barriers to trade despite assuring us for years that there would be no such thing.

"It is an insult that Westminster is only now looking to recruit people who can get round these barriers when they've known all along there would be barriers – despite constantly insisting there would be none."

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McAlpine added: "No matter who the UK Government brings in to work on trade deals for the future, nothing will compare to the deal Scotland already had with the EU and other countries as full members of the European Union.

"The only way Scotland will be able to lift trade barriers and open up once again to the international community is by becoming an independent country."

When contacted for comment, Defra maintained the Government has always acknowledged that there will be some friction in trade as a result of Brexit.

It insisted the Prime Minister, in his remarks to the BBC, was referring to the claim his deal will guarantee tariff-free trade with the EU.

However, under the agreement struck by the Tory government, products are subject to tariffs if more than 40% of its pre-finished value is neither of British nor EU origin.

Some EU companies have also said they will not sell their products in Britain because they would have to register in the UK for VAT.

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https://www.thenational.scot/news/19005114.uk-government-contradicts-key-boris-johnson-brexit-promise-job-advert/

[johnofgwent]

I haven't seen prices but what I read was all vaccines cost a different price, the AZ one being much cheaper than the Pfizer one. But Johnson bought 40 million of the Pfizer Vaccine and the EU have a po for 300m of the AZ one. The EU has PO's with 7 c19 companies and so does the UK, the point being the UK is paying a higher price, most likely because it's purchasing 10 times less. Your point is mute.

My earlier point to toots is C19 is not a competition, that the EU is not sitting on it's laurels, jsy because a USA/EU company made the first vaccine and the UK rushed the approval process doesn't make the UK a world beater. People all over the world have been working to find a way out of this.

Rushing the approval process is an interesting one


I know they rushed the tests, but as my mate in the Royal Society found, that was probably because the antibodies are rather short lived and had the assays continued much beyond 60 days the reduction in efficacy would be clear for all to see.

[johnofgwent]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1954093/how-brexit-killed-londons-eu-stock-trading/amp/

So we'll be forced into financial regulatory equivalence or else go broke (don't bother reading this either as you wouldn't understand it same with the other stuff).

And we'll end up going down a strange route where we're FORCED by the EU to do what they want, but with no say and no friends/liness oh well.

I wonder what inquisitive folks (only) will think of this one? It's very strange.

https://www.risk.net/investing/7730216/uk-offers-unlimited-dark-trading-on-lost-eu-stocks

Sadly I can't see that last link unless I register to the page using a commercial email address (which is currently offline and being migrated)

[Borchester]

If it's not a competition why are we being told the eu has lower death rates and will be paying less for the vaccine?

It is the smoking and drinking.

Every time you see a German he is quaffing lager by the bucketful and in East Europe smoking is compulsory. But for nearly 50 years the UK has been run by the EU's milquetoast Viceroys recruited from Islington. And they have spent all their time watering the beer and banning anything we might enjoy, so naturally our resistance is less than that of Johnny Foreigner. 

[Borg Refinery]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1954093/how-brexit-killed-londons-eu-stock-trading/amp/

So we'll be forced into financial regulatory equivalence or else go broke (don't bother reading this either as you wouldn't understand it same with the other stuff).

And we'll end up going down a strange route where we're FORCED by the EU to do what they want, but with no say and no friends/liness oh well.

I wonder what inquisitive folks (only) will think of this one? It's very strange.

https://www.risk.net/investing/7730216/uk-offers-unlimited-dark-trading-on-lost-eu-stocks

[GerryT]

If it's not a competition why are we being told the eu has lower death rates and will be paying less for the vaccine?

Thought you were ignoring me

[cromwell]

If it's not a competition why are we being told the eu has lower death rates and will be paying less for the vaccine?