Are the BBC for real.

[BeElBeeBub]

Once again the BBC are reporting utter drivel based on absolutely no substance.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50219036">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50219036



For a start, how do they know what deals will be done by 2029? And they haven't taken into consideration the £108 billion we won't be sending to the EU.



The rest of the world views them as the quintessential reporting agent for balanced news 😂.

This is great example of how brexiters get numbers out of proportion.



You make a play of the £108bn "we won't be sending to the EU", but that's the annual loss Vs remain. Comparing it with the cumulative "saving" over 10 years of EU contributions is comparing apples to oranges.



Over 10 years, the cumulative GDP of the UK will be somewhere around £200,000 billion and the cumulative short fall (what you should be comparing the £100bn figure with) around £350bn.



A lot of the modeling assumes trade deals with the US, Japan, Australia, India, NZ, China etc.



The fact is that trade deals with far off countries do not have as great a beneficial as trade deals with closer countries.



The trading environment with our biggest and closest partner will get worse.  There is no way around that fact.  Trading will be harder than now.  There will be more friction in both directions and there is no chance of it being better.



The trade environment with other countries may get a little easier but it simply won't be able to compensate.

[Conchúr]

You do realise that the job of BBC news and its journalists it to report the news and what is happening.  That means if a well known organisation releases a forecast or survey, the BBC can and will report it.  They will also report the words of people you disagree with.  This is called news reporting and used to be normal.  I'm not sure why in modern times, some people seem to think that news channels shouldn't be allowed to report events, opinions, and statements that they don't like.



Also, you only have to read about 3 sentences in before they start balancing out with opposing view and clarifications.  



So are you suggesting that the BBC shouldn't be allowed to report this information?

If anything, the fervency and pseudo-religious insistence of Brexiteers to believe in Brexit at all costs have actually led to them getting a far easier ride in the media than they really should. There was a time when, if people had lofty ideas about massive constitutional change, journalists and interviewers would rip into them if they didn't actually have practical ideas on how their ambitions would ever work in a feasible sense.  Nowadays we are subjected almost daily to Brexiteers being invited on shows to spout slogans in the name of balance.



Brexiteers think they get it rough in the media, but in fact they actually get indulged in much more luxurious fashion than most people who spout grand ideas with no plan.  Imagine an employee marching into a boardroom to tell the directors he thinks the company should do X, Y and Z and that they will profit massively from this — and when pressed about how the company should do it and told by the directors that planless corporate strategy could lead to disaster — the employee decries it as fearmongering and that the company's size and past success meant the Board only had to 'believe enough' and all would be well. Perhaps he might say "oh, we survived the Financial Crisis so we will survive this".



He would get much rougher treatment than most of the pro-Brexit commentators I see — who daily spout baseless bluster as if bluster and rigorous academic / professional studies were equals in political discourse. The commentator Alex Andreou summed this new world of journalism up brilliantly by comparing a BBC Radio piece about seagulls with a discussion on the impact of No Deal Brexit:



"...at the end of each hour, for a few minutes of a lighter item, the BBC was looking at a piece of research that suggested "the secret to protecting your seaside chips from scavenging seagulls is to stare at them".  They chatted to experts - people from the university that conducted the research, a zoologist specialising in seagulls and a wildlife photographer who had been around the birds for decades. They felt no need to have a Telegraph pundit, who once saw a seagull in Brighton, contradict the findings for balance. Our public broadcaster covers seagull behaviour with more rigour and integrity than no-deal Brexit.

[Javert]

You do realise that the job of BBC news and its journalists it to report the news and what is happening.  That means if a well known organisation releases a forecast or survey, the BBC can and will report it.  They will also report the words of people you disagree with.  This is called news reporting and used to be normal.  I'm not sure why in modern times, some people seem to think that news channels shouldn't be allowed to report events, opinions, and statements that they don't like.



Also, you only have to read about 3 sentences in before they start balancing out with opposing view and clarifications.  



So are you suggesting that the BBC shouldn't be allowed to report this information?

[Nick]

Well I don't know about that being wrong.

You can't include those who take ICE or whatever it's called. 😂

[Sheepy]

 Zombies would be walking the streets.



ALL of them were wrong so excuse me if I disregard everything they say.

Well I don't know about that being wrong.

[Nick]

Brexit hasn't happened yet.

Correct but they stated the disasters would happen as a direct result of the vote, not Brexit.

[papasmurf]

ALL of them were wrong so excuse me if I disregard everything they say.

 Brexit hasn't happened yet.

[Nick]

The BBC are only reporting the  National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) which is being widely reported elsewhere:-



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal 'will leave UK £70bn worse off a ...

Evening Standard-6 hours ago

The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said the Prime Minister's plan would shave nearly 4 per cent off of the ...

Brexit deal means '£70bn hit a year to UK by 2029'

BBC News-9 hours ago



UK's new Brexit deal worse than continued uncertainty - NIESR

Reuters UK-9 hours ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal would swipe £1100 from every ...

The Independent-2 hours ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal worse for economy than Theresa ...

PoliticsHome.com-1 hour ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal 'would cost UK economy £70bn'

In-Depth-The Guardian-9 hours ago

View all

The same usual suspects that predicted that a leave vote would have catastrophic consequences for the UK. There would have to be an emergency budget and Zombies would be walking the streets.



ALL of them were wrong so excuse me if I disregard everything they say.

[T00ts]

The BBC are only reporting the  National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) which is being widely reported elsewhere:-



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal 'will leave UK £70bn worse off a ...

Evening Standard-6 hours ago

The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said the Prime Minister's plan would shave nearly 4 per cent off of the ...

Brexit deal means '£70bn hit a year to UK by 2029'

BBC News-9 hours ago



UK's new Brexit deal worse than continued uncertainty - NIESR

Reuters UK-9 hours ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal would swipe £1100 from every ...

The Independent-2 hours ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal worse for economy than Theresa ...

PoliticsHome.com-1 hour ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal 'would cost UK economy £70bn'

In-Depth-The Guardian-9 hours ago

View all

...and project fear goes back into overdrive once more.

[papasmurf]

The BBC are only reporting the  National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) which is being widely reported elsewhere:-



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal 'will leave UK £70bn worse off a ...

Evening Standard-6 hours ago

The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said the Prime Minister's plan would shave nearly 4 per cent off of the ...

Brexit deal means '£70bn hit a year to UK by 2029'

BBC News-9 hours ago



UK's new Brexit deal worse than continued uncertainty - NIESR

Reuters UK-9 hours ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal would swipe £1100 from every ...

The Independent-2 hours ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal worse for economy than Theresa ...

PoliticsHome.com-1 hour ago



Boris Johnson's Brexit deal 'would cost UK economy £70bn'

In-Depth-The Guardian-9 hours ago

View all

[Nick]

Once again the BBC are reporting utter drivel based on absolutely no substance.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50219036">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50219036



For a start, how do they know what deals will be done by 2029? And they haven't taken into consideration the £108 billion we won't be sending to the EU.



The rest of the world views them as the quintessential reporting agent for balanced news 😂.