Voting choices and tactics

[johnofgwent]

I've taken a long, hard look at my own constituency and it's quite frightening really.



Labour had Newport East with a tens of thousands majority for decades. So much so that after the labour staunch opponent of the bridge tolls died, the seat was given to one of the Tory bastards who stabbed John major in the back and crossed the floor from Tory to labour without resigning in 94, which didn't half annoy the blue rinse brigade in Stratford upon Avon.



Newport East saw the rise of the lib dem vote that got to within 1800 votes of winning in the post-blair anger year of 2010, but in 2015 and 2017 they frittered away. Thanks to anger at Clegg



Stunningly the Tories came second in 2017 with a candidate chosen by the wife of the local AM, who got the job as chair of the selection committee as the price of his defection from plaid to Tory. Her choice of candidate ? Her daughter of course.



Well that plus the fact plaid were too principled to bribe him with a party funded job for his wife and daughter so he jumped to the Tories, who were only too happy to bribe him.



I think a properly managed campaign by the Brexit party putting up a candidate carefully chosen for their middle of the road politicsl beliefs - regrettably they'll have to be multi racial, because half the city won't vote for a white - combined with a proper campaign emphasising Mohammed Asghar's corrupt background, will see the Tories sink to the sub 5% level and the Brexit Party defeat the lying labour Blair Babe who only got in because her manifesto airbrushed Corbyn out of all the pictures and she personally promised to respect the 2016 result .. and who has done everything to achieve the opposite from the moment she got back .....

[johnofgwent]

Pappy, I try to help you but it is becoming painfully obvious that you are a dreary b*st*rd and as such the direct cause of Boris' 17% lead. Folk must wake up in the morning and think ahha, socialism. A new heaven and a new earth. Justice for all. And end to inequality, racism, sexism and ...hang about, isn't Pappy into socialism? And is he not a dreary b*st*rd? And so come 12 December they will vote Derek Thomas back in with a 17% majority.

 :rant:  :rant:  :rant:  :hattip

[papasmurf]

Don't you think recipients of Universal Credit will vote Tory out of thankful gratitude PS?

Given how many people have ending up being referred to Food banks, and put in high levels of debt because of Universal credit I suspect they hate the Tories as much as I do.

[Barry]

Don't you think recipients of Universal Credit will vote Tory out of thankful gratitude PS?

[papasmurf]

 And so come 12 December they will vote Derek Thomas back in with a 17% majority.

What are you smoking. He only has a majority of just over three hundred against a background of increasing poverty, increasing food bank need, and Universal Credit roll out increasing both. Then there are the number of business closures recently.

[Borchester]

Making such comments that based on propaganda and lies  is totally unacceptable especially during a General Election campaign.

(That also applies to any politician not just Corbyn.)

Pappy, I try to help you but it is becoming painfully obvious that you are a dreary b*st*rd and as such the direct cause of Boris' 17% lead. Folk must wake up in the morning and think ahha, socialism. A new heaven and a new earth. Justice for all. And end to inequality, racism, sexism and ...hang about, isn't Pappy into socialism? And is he not a dreary b*st*rd? And so come 12 December they will vote Derek Thomas back in with a 17% majority.

[papasmurf]

No. The idea of Wurzel's friends in ISIS seeing him in a green tie and slapping a suicide vest on him and telling him to peddle off and blow up the Schul in Hampstead Garden Suburb but him getting lost because he was going round in circles as per usual and ending up at the St Thomas Street mosque and getting a good kicking from the worshippers who are a bit po faced and not at all into radical Islam and then being interviewed by the police and blaming it all on Boris Johnson.



I am sorry Pappy, but I can't keep explaining jokes to you

Making such comments that based on propaganda and lies  is totally unacceptable especially during a General Election campaign.

(That also applies to any politician not just Corbyn.)

[Borchester]

Disrespecting the Grenfell dead is funny?

No. The idea of Wurzel's friends in ISIS seeing him in a green tie and slapping a suicide vest on him and telling him to peddle off and blow up the Schul in Hampstead Garden Suburb but him getting lost because he was going round in circles as per usual and ending up at the St Thomas Street mosque and getting a good kicking from the worshippers who are a bit po faced and not at all into radical Islam and then being interviewed by the police and blaming it all on Boris Johnson.



I am sorry Pappy, but I can't keep explaining jokes to you

[papasmurf]

Well I thought it was funny  

Disrespecting the Grenfell dead is funny?

[Borchester]

Those are VERY stupid comments, The Tory MPs showing their pig ignorance when the Grenfell disaster was going to be debated later in the day shows just how bloody nasty they are.

Well I thought it was funny  

[Ciaphas]

The Conservatives and Labour dominate voting in my constituency so if I have to pick between a hard Brexit with no confirmatory vote or a soft Brexit with one I'll have to vote for Labour.



The local Labour party are pretty grounded and their candidate seems OK so on the local level voting for Labour isn't a problem for me despite the party being dysfunctional on the national level.

[papasmurf]

Apparently, that is Gina Miller's website which you have provided a link for.

That does not matter to me it has useful info for anyone who wishes to vote tactically to keep a Tory out.

(I already knew where I live the Tory only just over a 300 majority.)



By the way how do you know it is Gina Millers website as it has been going for some time.

[Barry]

It isn't my site, I have been voting tactically, for over 50 years. (Other tactical voting sites are available.)

Apparently, that is Gina Miller's website which you have provided a link for.

[papasmurf]

Amazing! They have just advised me to do the same! And tat is in a constituency with a majority of 16,000.



I wonder. Is Pappy's site entirely impartial?

It isn't my site, I have been voting tactically, for over 50 years. (Other tactical voting sites are available.)

[T00ts]

Amazing! They have just advised me to do the same! And tat is in a constituency with a majority of 16,000.



I wonder. Is Pappy's site entirely impartial?

Perhaps we could instigate a forum wide investigation.