Tory Infighting Thread #331,998

[Thomas]

If today's performance at PMQs is anything to go by, Johnson has lost the dressing room...

(PS: just wanted to bring in a football expression for anyone who's going to miss their aging Sky pundits...)

Which would be known as a sly dig from a distance.

It does seem sheep that certain people just cant change their tactics.

I have watched for over thirteen years as the brit left and others attacked Salmond and Sturgeon relentlessly , as though by removing them , the rest of scotlands yes movement who put the snp in power would dissappear.

Its the same here with johnson and brexit.

By constantly attacking johnson , trying to ridicule him , and claiming small but meaningless victories , they think this will somehow stop brexit.

What actually is starmers policy on the major issues of the day?

I have yet to hear any of them. He has been largely conspicuous by his absence since he became leader , and seems to psend most of his time fighting the SRB types in his party and staying out fo the limelight of the press than anything else.

There comes a point where starmer the anti democrat will have to put his head above the parapet and start telling us labours policy and position if they ever want to try and get elected.

[Sheepy]

If today's performance at PMQs is anything to go by, Johnson has lost the dressing room...

(PS: just wanted to bring in a football expression for anyone who's going to miss their aging Sky pundits...)

Which would be known as a sly dig from a distance.

[papasmurf]

If today's performance at PMQs is anything to go by, Johnson has lost the dressing room...

Starmer's  rebuttable of Bojo The Clown's vile attack on Starmer about the IRA must have hit home.

[patman post]

If today's performance at PMQs is anything to go by, Johnson has lost the dressing room...

(PS: just wanted to bring in a football expression for anyone who's going to miss their aging Sky pundits...)

[Thomas]

Not another anti tory thread dyno?

Give the man a chance in government will you?

[Borg Refinery]

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/29/boris-johnson-faces-tory-wrath-as-party-slumps-in-shock-poll

Boris Johnson is facing a showdown with furious Conservative MPs over his government's chaotic handling of Covid-19, as a new poll shows the Tories have surrendered a massive lead over Labour in just five months.

As MPs prepare to return to Westminster on Tuesday, Charles Walker, who is vice-chair of the 1922 committee of Conservative backbenchers, told the Observer that a recent string of U-turns had left many colleagues in despair, with some struggling to support and defend their government to constituents. Governing by U-turn in this way, he said, was unsustainable.


Walker, who is normally counted as a firm Johnson loyalist, said: "Too often it looks like this government licks its finger and sticks it in the air to see which way the wind is blowing. This is not a sustainable way to approach the business of governing and government.

"It is becoming increasingly difficult for backbenchers now to promote and defend government policy as so often that policy is changed or abandoned without notice. Whether this approach is by design or by accident, the climate of uncertainty it creates is unsustainable and erodes morale."

Walker and the chairman of the 1922 committee, Sir Graham Brady, are expecting to have their "ears bent" by angry colleagues when MPs reconvene in the House of Commons, before relaying those concerns and strength of feeling to No 10. "We need to take the temperature on Tuesday and Wednesday and then decide what the plan of action is," said a 1922 committee source.


The recent exams fiasco and other sudden policy reversals, most recently over the wearing of face masks in schools, led many Tory MPs to believe that Johnson and his cabinet ministers have lost their grip.

Conservative MPs, including many ex-ministers with extensive experience inside government, are also increasingly angry that their voices and concerns, and those of senior Whitehall officials with many years of service, are being ignored and dismissed as power and decision-making is increasingly centred on a tight but inexperienced group within Downing Street.

Today, in a further blow to Conservative morale, a poll by Opinium for the Observer shows Labour is now level-pegging with the Tories for the first time since last summer, before Johnson was leader. In just five months since the full lockdown was imposed by the prime minister, the Conservatives have lost a 26-point lead over Labour who now stand neck-and-neck with the Tories on 40%.

The Liberal Democrats under their new leader Ed Davey, who was elected last week, are on 6%.

Adam Drummond of Opinium said: "This is the first time Labour have drawn level since July 2019 when both main parties were in freefall and losing votes to the Brexit party and the Liberal Democrats.

"Since Boris Johnson became prime minister the Tories typically had a double digit lead, peaking in March/April this year when they were seen to be handling the pandemic and lockdown fairly well while Labour changed leader. In the five months since that peak, the lead has gradually declined from 26% to 0% now."

So his constant u-turning is inducing big shearing forces that are cutting the party up..

I'm not surprised.