Barnier done!

Baff · September 12, 2020, 11:15:28 AM

No. It wasn't.

You went off on one, that's all.

papasmurf · September 12, 2020, 08:41:32 AM

Quote from: Nick on September 11, 2020, 08:45:50 PM

Don't think anyone was saying exclusively.

It was implied.

Nick · September 11, 2020, 08:45:50 PM

Quote from: papasmurf on September 11, 2020, 03:34:08 PMexclusively

Don't think anyone was saying exclusively.

Baff · September 11, 2020, 04:18:27 PM

/Agree.

And the same is true of this country.

papasmurf · September 11, 2020, 03:34:08 PM

Quote from: Baff on September 11, 2020, 03:18:12 PM
Almost every country uses the WTO.

Uses is not trades exclusively. As the references I posted show.

Baff · September 11, 2020, 03:18:12 PM

Almost every country uses the WTO.
They may also make trade deals on the side and many do.

For example.
We trade with America, our largest trade partner, on WTO terms.
Same with China and many other nations.
With Japan on the other hand, we have signed a trade agreement that works in compliment with WTO rules.

papasmurf · September 11, 2020, 02:27:06 PM

Quote from: Baff on September 11, 2020, 02:04:03 PM
Just about every country on earth trades under WTO rules.

Read it all:-

https://fullfact.org/online/how-much-trade-wto-terms/

98% of world trade is not done 'through' the WTO

https://fullfact.org/europe/who-trades-eu-under-wto-rules/

Baff · September 11, 2020, 02:04:03 PM

Just about every country on earth trades under WTO rules.

papasmurf · September 11, 2020, 07:58:37 AM

Quote from: GerryT on September 11, 2020, 12:24:40 AM
WTO is a way for the UK to continue trading with the EU.

The WTO is very disastrous way to trade with anyone which is why so few countries do.

Baff · September 11, 2020, 01:02:05 AM

It's very likely that he will do exactly this.

GerryT · September 11, 2020, 12:24:40 AM

Quote from: T00ts on September 10, 2020, 06:03:33 PMReally? The EU would have been happy to walk away and take our fish with us and start state subsidising at will? Quite apart from all the other arrangements they have wanted in order to procure their level playing field.

But the UK could have just walked away. WTO is a way for the UK to continue trading with the EU. There's downsides but that was always an option. There is no obligation on the UK to enter into a FTA.
The question is, if thats such a good option, why hasn't the UK done this, why hasn't Johnson done this

Baff · September 10, 2020, 06:05:46 PM

Quote from: GerryT on September 10, 2020, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Baff on September 10, 2020, 05:26:33 PMAfter a few decades of trying to end our treaty with the EU, I feel no great rush to commit to another.
You try.

We not only said we wanted to leave right form day one, we also said we didn't want to join in the first place.

Democracy is a slow, slow process it seems. (So slow I didn't even believe we lived in one).

Still. Got there in the end

(Big up to Nigel Farage for proving me wrong).

You only had to say you were leaving. Not like it's difficult.

T00ts · September 10, 2020, 06:03:33 PM

Quote from: GerryT on September 10, 2020, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Baff on September 10, 2020, 05:26:33 PMAfter a few decades of trying to end our treaty with the EU, I feel no great rush to commit to another.

You only had to say you were leaving. Not like it's difficult.

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Really? The EU would have been happy to walk away and take our fish with us and start state subsidising at will? Quite apart from all the other arrangements they have wanted in order to procure their level playing field.

GerryT · September 10, 2020, 05:46:02 PM

Quote from: Baff on September 10, 2020, 05:26:33 PMAfter a few decades of trying to end our treaty with the EU, I feel no great rush to commit to another.

You only had to say you were leaving. Not like it's difficult.

Baff · September 10, 2020, 05:26:33 PM

Can't see anyone in the EU worth having a security arrangement with.
Liabilities all.

After a few decades of trying to end our treaty with the EU, I feel no great rush to commit to another.