FT: Bojo to override WA

[Good old]

Only the last eight words worth a reply.
That's  SAD. And totally mistaken.  Still when all else fails retreat into ,Nah,Nah,Land.

Thats cause labour have nothing to say good old. criticse , but offer no solutions.

My  word you only come on here to blast Labour. Oh! I already said that. Well it's so true isn't it.
I have done both, criticised , and offered a solution.  The criticism is . Boris, is  wrong to break international laws , you are wrong to break treaties that you signed and lauded just a year since that treaties creation .  Solution .Don't break international law . Don't act in bad faith by ignoring treaties you have recommended, when it comes to implementing the contents of tha treaty. When you are in a hole don't dig deeper .. there you are two Very easy to accomplish solutions.
You have merely stirred the pot as usual.

[Borg Refinery]

Not that old Chestnut Dynamis, I like the EU, but abstained, so it feeds the idea if you didn't abstain Labour would be in power and we would still be in the EU, I guess you missed the last election when that idea was put out to grass forever.

(Dynamis) ( and others#)
I vote labour , but dont support labour.

I like socialism , but im not a socialist.

The eu is a force for good , and we should remain , but i abstained on voting.

Its feckin hilarious sheep.

Theres men , and theres mice. Some of us stand under our flags and fight our corners , while the brit left slink around on their knees and rake about in the dirt.

No wonder they are in a state.

I can't stand blair , but no matter how delusional he is , at least he comes out and fights his corner unlike the modern labour party and their supporters. If i had a pound for everytime i have been told " i dont support labour" on the interwebby i would be a feckin millionaire by now.

Its hilarious , imagine not even being able to own your own beliefs and stand tall for what you believe in?

But I'm not. Corbyn was just a less worse option than Bojo, I can't really simplify it for you anymore than that, aaaand.. you still won't understand it.

If falsely labelling people makes you feel better (and you were accusing me of being a liar? look in the mirror), simply carry on.

[Borg Refinery]

Not that old Chestnut Dynamis, I like the EU, but abstained, so it feeds the idea if you didn't abstain Labour would be in power and we would still be in the EU, I guess you missed the last election when that idea was put out to grass forever.

No it doesn't, the last election proves that people want hard Brexit in England.

OK, give them hard Brexit.

Like I said, Brexit isn't that big a deal compared to day to day running of the country, we were going to get a bad deal due to the Tories being in power whether we remained or left IMHO, so it was irrelevant.

IMHO my position on abstaining remains the correct one as I truly do not like Tory remainers, or neoliberal Blairite Lab remainers either - you know, the types who blame the EU for everything and then say that Brexiters are the problem with everything.

[Sheepy]

Well he probably will be when he see the thrashing the fools are getting twitter and facebook. I don't think Tone and John will be amused though.

As i said sheep , labour are getting it tight on twitter.

The vitriol being directed at them is unbelievable.

I cannae believe how much they are hated by the english public.

As for blair and major the pr blunders by remain keep coming as they have done now for the past four years or more.

Imagine being stupid enough to broadcast tony blair opposes the uk governments actions?

FFS.

Well as I kindly explained for Ms Patel, you cannot break the law if you make the laws, because you do what you have always done, change them when it suits. I can hear the screaming from here. After all giving yourself the title of lawmakers says it all.

[Borg Refinery]

Here is an example of Borkie talking London up;

Desperate dyno.

Of course you are, you're reading things into humorous posts of mine that simply aren't there in a desperate attempt to troll me.

The truth is, I laugh it all off. At no point are you making anything even remotely close to a salient or coherent point, post the Connolly discussion.

"....and you accuse me of not being able to read what you have written?"

Correct

"I didnt say borkie talks london up or down. "

Oh don't be ridiculous, it was implied that he isn't 'disloyal' to north london (😆🤣🙈😄) whereas I am.

I find it hilarious.

"I sais he always comes across happy and full of life while you are a miserable bastard. I also said you talk your home city down , a trait i find pretty snivelling and disloyal."

As does he, but it's only snivelling and disloyal when I do it? When you talk Glesga down.. is that also snivelling and disloyal you little hypocritical F@@@?

...but like borkie he is funny with it. While you just come across as though you are ready to top yourself and constantly moaning about life.

Where have I constantly moaned about my life?

...Wtf are you even on about? I don't ever recall mentioning personal anecdotes on here apart from once or twice. The other day I was saying about how Hastings is generally quite nice as long as you're nice.

I do absolutely not miss north london, it was a feckin horrible place and good riddance to it.

No you can't. You see dyno , i dont talk shite , and i never lie.

That's what you've convinced ypurseof of, good luck with that rabby..

"I think thats what certain folk with multiple internet identities and pseudonyms across differing forums , who lie all the time , with their walter mitty fantasies , find very difficult to deal with."

And where have I lied?

I'm not on fb, or twitter or whatever, I speak to a few yanks, another lot of English folks, and on here and that's it. Whereas I've seen you on several other forum places and on blogs (by accident by the way). And you admit you use social media on top of that, and you've been doing it for years, I've not bothered for many years on and off.

And my position is consistent even if you were to review my posts elsewhere, they stand up to scrutiny and mirror my thoughts here. I use invisible mode and pseudonyms because I get stalkers like you and some others trying to give me some trouble from time to time. And have definitely had accounts hacked before.

I think nick has made an extremely pertinent point. You want to change the world , but you want to do it by abstaining on the big issues and decisions , voting for a political party you say you dont support , and moaning from the comfort of your bedroom on the internet?

Aren't you doing the same thing? Your idea is to let Scotland get stamped into the ground by hard Brexit whereas Sturgeon IS fighting it with every fibre of her being.

I salute her and the SNP for trying to protect ingrates like you, who try to justify hard brexit for the English on here.

Other SNP people really don't share your views Thomas, and I've spoken to enoigh to know that you only speak for yourself.

We already know that Labour, particularly in Scotland, have no policies on just about anything. But in the light of the past week's glut of abstentions, we decided to see if we could find out if the party had any remaining principles either. The results were startling, by which we mean not startling in the slightest.

Below are just a few of the votes that Labour has abstained on, at both Westminster and Holyrood, in recent memory. What, we ponder rhetorically, is the point of having an Opposition that doesn't ever actually oppose anything?

On retrospectively depriving workfare victims of compensation

On the right of civil servants to strike

On rejecting the siting of nuclear weapons in Scotland
(see also the renewal of Trident, in both 2010 and 2007)

On condemning the Iraq war

On free tuition for students

On minimum pricing of alcohol

On opposing the 50p-rate tax cut

On opposing savage cuts to public-sector pensions

On stopping fuel-duty increases

On maintaining concessionary bus travel for the elderly

On massive pay rises for councillors

On the criminalisation of squatting

On reducing VAT from 20% to 17.5%

On the Scottish budget

Labours pitifull record on abstaining was that bad at one point even the lib dems were taking the piss....



So you seem to fit right in with this party you say you dont support dyno. In fact you could say you "abstain" on support of labour [/quote]

Yes, I don't support Labour, you're correct.

What would labour do different dyno?

If you can't tell us , then you are admitting no alternative to the tory deal , wether its good or bad in your opinion , so you should suck it up.

I am sucking it up, England is.

Are you asking me what I'd do differently or what Lab would do differently? I don't want to control Labour even if you gave me the option to tomorrow

[Thomas]

Everytime pappysmurf likes someones post who is quoting me , i take it as a badge of honour. It normally means im getting right up the auld cants nose.

( especially dynamis who cant stand smurf LOL)

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[Thomas]

Not that old Chestnut Dynamis, I like the EU, but abstained, so it feeds the idea if you didn't abstain Labour would be in power and we would still be in the EU, I guess you missed the last election when that idea was put out to grass forever.

(Dynamis) ( and others#)
I vote labour , but dont support labour.

I like socialism , but im not a socialist.

The eu is a force for good , and we should remain , but i abstained on voting.

Its feckin hilarious sheep.

Theres men , and theres mice. Some of us stand under our flags and fight our corners , while the brit left slink around on their knees and rake about in the dirt.

No wonder they are in a state.

I can't stand blair , but no matter how delusional he is , at least he comes out and fights his corner unlike the modern labour party and their supporters. If i had a pound for everytime i have been told " i dont support labour" on the interwebby i would be a feckin millionaire by now.

Its hilarious , imagine not even being able to own your own beliefs and stand tall for what you believe in?

[Thomas]

Dynamis , why do you always have to stay hidden like a thief in the dark when reading posts mate?

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[Sheepy]

Not that old Chestnut Dynamis, I like the EU, but abstained, so it feeds the idea if you didn't abstain Labour would be in power and we would still be in the EU, I guess you missed the last election when that idea was put out to grass forever.

[Thomas]

Only the last eight words worth a reply.
That's  SAD. And totally mistaken.  Still when all else fails retreat into ,Nah,Nah,Land.

Thats cause labour have nothing to say good old. criticse , but offer no solutions.

[Thomas]

Here is an example of Borkie talking London up;

Desperate dyno.

....and you accuse me of not being able to read what you have written?

I didnt say borkie talks london up or down. I sais he always comes across happy and full of life while you are a miserable bastard. I also said you talk your home city down , a trait i find pretty snivelling and disloyal.

Here is an example of your hero wee Frankie talking up bonny Scotland & Glesga up:

....but like borkie he is funny with it. While you just come across as though you are ready to top yourself and constantly moaning about life.

I can smell yours too

No you cant. You see dyno , i dont talk shite , and i never lie.

I think thats what certain folk with multiple internet identities and pseudonyms across differing forums , who lie all the time , with their walter mitty fantasies , find very difficult to deal with.

In your opinion only, one which holds no weight, does not move me in any way.

Maybe you should tell that to all the mass abstention campaigners across Europe who have influenced elections?

I think nick has made an extremely pertinent point. You want to change the world , but you want to do it by abstaining on the big issues and decisions , voting for a political party you say you dont support , and moaning from the comfort of your bedroom on the internet?

The biggest mass abstentionists i can think of are the labour party funnily enough.....you know the party you dont support but just vote for a GE?

We regulalry mock labour in scotland over this.

We already know that Labour, particularly in Scotland, have no policies on just about anything. But in the light of the past week's glut of abstentions, we decided to see if we could find out if the party had any remaining principles either. The results were startling, by which we mean not startling in the slightest.

Below are just a few of the votes that Labour has abstained on, at both Westminster and Holyrood, in recent memory. What, we ponder rhetorically, is the point of having an Opposition that doesn't ever actually oppose anything?

On retrospectively depriving workfare victims of compensation

On the right of civil servants to strike

On rejecting the siting of nuclear weapons in Scotland
(see also the renewal of Trident, in both 2010 and 2007)

On condemning the Iraq war

On free tuition for students

On minimum pricing of alcohol

On opposing the 50p-rate tax cut

On opposing savage cuts to public-sector pensions

On stopping fuel-duty increases

On maintaining concessionary bus travel for the elderly

On massive pay rises for councillors

On the criminalisation of squatting

On reducing VAT from 20% to 17.5%

On the Scottish budget

Labours pitifull record on abstaining was that bad at one point even the lib dems were taking the piss....



So you seem to fit right in with this party you say you dont support dyno. In fact you could say you "abstain" on support of labour

Rubbish, it is irrelevant as I pointed out, while same govt remains in power, they are going to negotiate a bad deal for us.

What would labour do different dyno?

If you can't tell us , then you are admitting no alternative to the tory deal , wether its good or bad in your opinion , so you should suck it up.

[Borg Refinery]

😆

Happiest guys on the forum?

You are surely pulling my leg, and you say life is miserable here? I can't imagine what it's like where you are that he comes across as happy..

unlike you dyno borkie is always cracking jokes , living life to the full and comes across happy.

As he says , you folk in the brothers and sisters take life too serious for the rest of us mere mortals.

I don't mind Hastings that much, I'm talking about london where I'm from.

So am i.

Dont you want to talk your home city of london up?

FFs show a bit of loyalty and respect.

Here is an example of Borkie talking London up;

"Anyway, let us hear it for Scottish Independence. Maybe you could take Tottenham with you. It has been a bit quiet recently, possibly because they have run out of folk to stab, but there must be something you can do with it.Level it maybe and turn it into a multi story car park?"



Here is an example of your hero wee Frankie talking up bonny Scotland & Glesga up:

[On the most Scottish thing he has ever seen] "I was going through a town called Bathgate at around 11 o'clock at night. And there was a guy leaning and p*ssing against a front door. He then took out his keys and went inside."

We had the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow this year. A great choice of venue: a place where people think Hepatitis B is a vitamin.

I certainly can smell my own

I can smell yours too.

Are you trying to say if you were laying in a bed of your own shite  , you wouldnt notice?

and after 3 glenfiddich's.. would anyone? 

opinion

You don't get one. You abstained.

In your opinion only, one which holds no weight, does not move me in any way.

Maybe you should tell that to all the mass abstention campaigners across Europe who have influenced elections?

opinion

You don't get one. You abstained.

well said nick, i forgot all about that. All these high and mighty morals and ideals about "our horrible society" and dyno abstains when it counts?

He certainly isnt a james connolly eh?

Rubbish, it is irrelevant as I pointed out, while same govt remains in power, they are going to negotiate a bad deal for us.

[Good old]

As ever Good old , has not said what you say he has ,  I'm not surprised you can deal with lying ,and law breaking in your favourite politicians, as you peddle mis information constantly.
You certainly like your cake and eat it.  You constantly slag Labour , at every opportunity , yet in a previous post Smurf,gets ridiculed for slagging Tories ,  Pot ,Kettle, Black. Or what.

waffle waffle waffle get to the point please eh? FFS

You tell us you are a Scots Nat, the party who's  Westminster leader Ian Blackford, slagged Boris, on the question of his threat to break international law ,just  days ago

Sure , and i disagree with the snp high command  as i have said o this issue before.

Unlike your party , we arent brainwashed lemmings.

The party that has never supported Brexit ,

The SNP , and wider yes movements grass roots and members support democracy and the inalienable right of the english and welsh people to leave the eu as per their democratic vote.

Next???
#

You say you were a remainer, yet you argue non stop for every detail of Brexit from a dedicated brexiteer point of view.

of course, i have said for four years now why that is. England wants out the eu , and you and your party are too dumb to pull a BRINO over the english and welsh voters eyes , but still you try .

Its laughable watching you try and overturn democracy  ,and failing at every single feckin point.

Popcorn is out every night mate , watching the anti democratic shitshow anglo remainers put on in their inccesant whinge against democracy.

P. It would in fact come from Tory head office, and you are tuned right in.

i have been called a russian bot , and many other things on here , but this is a new one.

   You say you have no concern for what you have called  explicitly my country , that is England, yet you write reams of stuff concerning how it should be run and the political persuasion of those that should not do that

. Independence for scotland will sort that out. I have every right to have a say on breixt and any other reserved matter so stop anti democrtically whinging.

Is highly hypocritical .

aye whatever good old.

On twittersphere , the public certainly dont seem to agree with you and your parties shite.

I have heard the word quisling a few times .

Only the last eight words worth a reply.
That's  SAD. And totally mistaken.  Still when all else fails retreat into ,Nah,Nah,Land.

[Thomas]

As ever Good old , has not said what you say he has ,  I'm not surprised you can deal with lying ,and law breaking in your favourite politicians, as you peddle mis information constantly.
You certainly like your cake and eat it.  You constantly slag Labour , at every opportunity , yet in a previous post Smurf,gets ridiculed for slagging Tories ,  Pot ,Kettle, Black. Or what.

waffle waffle waffle get to the point please eh? FFS

You tell us you are a Scots Nat, the party who's  Westminster leader Ian Blackford, slagged Boris, on the question of his threat to break international law ,just  days ago

Sure , and i disagree with the snp high command  as i have said o this issue before.

Unlike your party , we arent brainwashed lemmings.

The party that has never supported Brexit ,

The SNP , and wider yes movements grass roots and members support democracy and the inalienable right of the english and welsh people to leave the eu as per their democratic vote.

Next???
#

You say you were a remainer, yet you argue non stop for every detail of Brexit from a dedicated brexiteer point of view.

of course, i have said for four years now why that is. England wants out the eu , and you and your party are too dumb to pull a BRINO over the english and welsh voters eyes , but still you try .

Its laughable watching you try and overturn democracy  ,and failing at every single feckin point.

Popcorn is out every night mate , watching the anti democratic shitshow anglo remainers put on in their inccesant whinge against democracy.

P. It would in fact come from Tory head office, and you are tuned right in.

i have been called a russian bot , and many other things on here , but this is a new one.

   You say you have no concern for what you have called  explicitly my country , that is England, yet you write reams of stuff concerning how it should be run and the political persuasion of those that should not do that

. Independence for scotland will sort that out. I have every right to have a say on breixt and any other reserved matter so stop anti democrtically whinging.

Is highly hypocritical .

aye whatever good old.

On twittersphere , the public certainly dont seem to agree with you and your parties shite.

I have heard the word quisling a few times .

[Good old]

Spain pushes for Gibraltar to join Schengen area after Brexit transition ends

LONDON — The Spanish government is pushing for Gibraltar to join the passport-free Schengen zone after the Brexit transition period.

Madrid made its request at a series of meetings with representatives of the governments of Britain and Gibraltar held in the Spanish capital in recent months. The European Commission has been kept abreast of the discussions.

The British government, which handles the foreign affairs of the British overseas territory of Gibraltar, is expected to respond to the proposal in two to three weeks' time, according to EU officials.

The idea is part of Spain's strategy of "shared responsibility" with the U.K. over the Rock's affairs after Brexit. Madrid argues that 97 percent of people in Gibraltar voted Remain in 2016, and that means tailored solutions should be found to allow Gibraltar to continue to benefit from as many EU policies as possible, with freedom of movement being one of the priorities. The proposal has the backing of Gibraltar's Chief Minister Fabian Picardo

https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-gibraltar-schengen-brexit-transition/

More bullshite from the Spanish . The last referendum on sovereignty 2002  saw 98.7% voting to remain British . Cross border workers and trade are important to both Spain and Gibraltar but Ive not seen anything that would suggest anyone in the UK or Gibraltar are willing to accept Spain or indeed the EU as part rulers of the rock .  In the end it will be down to the Gibraltarians who to be fair that although they voted remain have accepted leave as their destiny .

A but streetwalker havent you been reading pro european labour supporters like good old on this forum earlier?

Its one rule for the europeans , and another for the british he says. Referendums only matter when its in europes interests.

Im told brexit was a "british " referendum , and we all have to abide by it , the next , im told brexit isnt a british referendum , and northern ireland is an exception.

Im told the eu can't interfere in domestic issue , then the next , the eu is interfering in northern ireland and supporting spain interfering in sovereign uk overseas terrority.( while ignoring fascist spains brutal repression of the catalans)

Some people seem to want cake and eat it it seems.

As ever Good old , has not said what you say he has ,  I'm not surprised you can deal with lying ,and law breaking in your favourite politicians, as you peddle mis information constantly.
You certainly like your cake and eat it.  You constantly slag Labour , at every opportunity , yet in a previous post Smurf,gets ridiculed for slagging Tories ,  Pot ,Kettle, Black. Or what.
You tell us you are a Scots Nat, the party who's  Westminster leader Ian Blackford, slagged Boris, on the question of his threat to break international law ,just  days ago .The party that has never supported Brexit , or those that led the pursuit of it. Yet you have spent days here supporting its implementation and the methods used to do that. You support him and his party, or so you say. You say you were a remainer, yet you argue non stop for every detail of Brexit from a dedicated brexiteer point of view.  The party you say you support uses policy  that could be taken straight from a centre left Labour government. doesn't stop them having your support. Yet you divide Labour ,so obviously policy that party would use. You  show a support for Boris, and the Tories on here that would never come from the SNP. It would in fact come from Tory head office, and you are tuned right in.   You say you have no concern for what you have called  explicitly my country , that is England, yet you write reams of stuff concerning how it should be run and the political persuasion of those that should not do that. And of course slag the  Labour Party,  Because as you accuse others there are times when it's your only interest. 
You have your cake and eat it alright Thomas, and just for good measure you have your cake and eat with what is said to you, because as said a good deal you claim is said to you , has not been said to you , merely a fabrication of what has been said to you.  So to say others want their cake and eat it as if you don't . Is highly hypocritical .