Sir Keir Starmer condemns 'ridiculous' asylum proposition

[johnofgwent]

Actually they tend not to have the vote. Non-British nationals generally don't. You'd know that if you didn't let your prejudiced assumptions get in the way of facts

As I said

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7733551/Welsh-Assembly-votes-allow-foreign-nationals-vote-elections.html

Admittedly the daily fail but i cannot find a picture of the official assembly poster that came through my door last week telling me to make sure i register to vote if i live in wales even if i am seeling asylum and have not yet been given a hearing....



If you prefer the woke bias of the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50561883


And it's labour policy to push this out nationally

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/25/labour-members-back-motion-give-all-uk-residents-full-voting-rights

[johnofgwent]

Evidence please.

wait until May 2021 and look at the welsh assembly electoral result in south Pembrokeshire

[papasmurf]

Autism is a blanket term describing a pretty huge range of neurological presentations - there is no one key indicator of autism.  It's true that some autistic people might struggle to understand satire, but others wouldn't, and various people with various other mental health conditions (or even cultural background) might not understand satire very well, so with respect this is an incorrect statement about autism both ways around.

Actually there has been next to no satire in TV for years, I am looking forward to the return of Spitting Image.

[Javert]

I believe a lack of understanding satire is one of the key ingredients of autism !!

Autism is a blanket term describing a pretty huge range of neurological presentations - there is no one key indicator of autism.  It's true that some autistic people might struggle to understand satire, but others wouldn't, and various people with various other mental health conditions (or even cultural background) might not understand satire very well, so with respect this is an incorrect statement about autism both ways around.

[papasmurf]

I believe a lack of understanding satire is one of the key ingredients of autism !!

Because of the number of frankly nasty bastards on the internet who mean exactly what they write, I just assume the worst.

[Nick]

Do you two ( you and yer smurf pal) no get "tongue in cheek " comments?

FFS.

I believe a lack of understanding satire is one of the key ingredients of autism !!

[papasmurf]

There you go then.

Even the Tories don't want to go that far.

Something about badly behaved tourists in Cornwall doing this and that shoulf be [insert novel punishment here].. Something about gypsies should be treated to armed riot police..

All I want for the badly behaved tourists is enforcement of law and regulations.
Personally I have never had any problems with Gypsies. New Age Travellers and similar on the other hand were problematic locally for over ten years, until a multi agency "bust" and 46 arrest warrants cleared the problem away. (Still very little sign of them locally now.)

[Borg Refinery]

Actually I would put machine guns and razor wire around the entire British mainland coastline

There you go then.

Even the Tories don't want to go that far.

I have never suggested killing gypsies and tourists.

Something about badly behaved tourists in Cornwall doing this and that shoulf be [insert novel punishment here].. Something about gypsies should be treated to armed riot police..

[papasmurf]

So tell me what you meant when you said you'd like to put machine guns around the border of the EU?

Aren't you even worse than she is?

Then again you told us you'd like to kill gypsies, tourists etc so I guess migrants makes sense too.

Actually I would put machine guns and razor wire around the entire British mainland coastline but I have never suggested killing gypsies and tourists.

[Borg Refinery]

There is big difference between disliking illegal immigrants and or asylum seekers and supporting some of the disgusting ideas being floated by Priti Patel, and others.

So tell me what you meant when you said you'd like to put machine guns around the border of the EU?

Aren't you even worse than she is?

Then again you told us you'd like to kill gypsies, tourists etc so I guess migrants makes sense too.

[papasmurf]

Starmer should know that the bulk of the population don't like illegal immigrants,

There is big difference between disliking illegal immigrants and or asylum seekers and supporting some of the disgusting ideas being floated by Priti Patel, and others.

[Borchester]

By the way, even according to migration watch; max 20% of all illegal migration is asylum seekers/refugees, mostly it's VISA overstayers; temp students/foreign workers etc.

And even that is overstated;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/23/immigration-figures-review-new-checks-suggest-numbers-far-lower/

There you go then. So it's all total bollocks.

By the way, migration watch are alternating, biased liars who are known for exaggerations in the first place.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/heres-why-migration-watch-got-their-study-post-brexit-immigration-wrong/

https://workpermit.com/news/migration-watch-uk-criticised-misleading-uk-immigration-reports-20160629

Well there you are.

The first thing every barrister is taught is never to ask a question unless unless you know the answer. Starmer should know that the bulk of the population don't like illegal immigrants, so how he came up with the idea that supporting their cause would be a vote winner is something of a mystery.

I thought that Sir Keir had plans to be Tony Blair Mark II, but the way he is going he is likely to end as not much of anything Mark I

[Borg Refinery]

By the way, even according to migration watch; max 20% of all illegal migration is asylum seekers/refugees, mostly it's VISA overstayers; temp students/foreign workers etc.

And even that is overstated;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/23/immigration-figures-review-new-checks-suggest-numbers-far-lower/

There you go then. So it's all total bollocks.

By the way, migration watch are alternating, biased liars who are known for exaggerations in the first place.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/heres-why-migration-watch-got-their-study-post-brexit-immigration-wrong/

https://workpermit.com/news/migration-watch-uk-criticised-misleading-uk-immigration-reports-20160629

[Borg Refinery]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/britain-plans-deny-asylum-illegal-024716919.html

[Borg Refinery]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/priti-patel-interview-ill-sink-smugglers-and-throw-a-life-ring-to-the-needy-jsbnn6c68

These are pretty disgusting comments, ungallant my arse when you've got politicians saying they'll potentially drown migrants for some political point scoring shit.

She's shit mate. Any criticism of her is well deserved.