The Fake Syrian Chemical Attack in Douma

[DeppityDawg]

Do you remember the Salisbury attacks and the image on the BBC of two Russians suspected of staging the attack,and what did you say "it's all lies I tell you"

Well...he is comrade Sampanski after all, isn't he? His christian name is 'Vladimir' apparently....

[papasmurf]

I live few miles from a heart and lung specialist centre,doesn't make me an expert in that field nor you in photographic analysis.

I am not an expert photographic analysis but I know a group of people who are.

I suggest you look closely at the video of the alleged Douma  incident that went world wide on every TV news channel and if you can't see it is a fake you really do need to go to Specsavers.
People treating "casualties" with no personal protection at all and no consequences.  The OPCW was never able to inspect any dead bodies.

[cromwell]

What I have written about Salisbury is we were fed a lot of lies and propaganda by British "spooks" via the Prime Minister and onwards to a totally unquestioning Media/Press.
The official version is bullshine. About the only thing that is known for sure is the Skripal's were poisoned with a nerve agent.
Back on thread, the World wide  video  shown on the news about Douma just does not stack up.
Not of those giving first aid to the "casualties," is wearing any PPE, and yet they come to no harm.
The OPCW very long report on Douma uses allegedly all the way through it and they were not given access to any bodies.

I have many time challenged video/photographic evidence over the years in various incidents and campaigns and in several cases because of the analysis they have been withdrawn.
(I live a few miles away from a military photographic analysis training school and suspicious video/photographs are good practice.)

The amount of fake/staged video/photos undermines the real incidents.

I live few miles from a heart and lung specialist centre,doesn't make me an expert in that field nor you in photographic analysis.

[Sampanviking]

This is a link to page that has some of the video testimony by Dr Ian Henderson, who was a team leader of the OPCW mission to Douma in 2018.
So this is straight from the horses mouth.
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/22/ian-henderson-opcw-whistleblower-un-no-chemical-attack-douma-syria/

[papasmurf]

A BBC producer eh? Well you always dismiss representatives of msm as liars......till it suits.
Do you remember the Salisbury attacks and the image on the BBC of two Russians suspected of staging the attack,and what did you say "it's all lies I tell you"

What I have written about Salisbury is we were fed a lot of lies and propaganda by British "spooks" via the Prime Minister and onwards to a totally unquestioning Media/Press.
The official version is bullshine. About the only thing that is known for sure is the Skripal's were poisoned with a nerve agent.
Back on thread, the World wide  video  shown on the news about Douma just does not stack up.
Not of those giving first aid to the "casualties," is wearing any PPE, and yet they come to no harm.
The OPCW very long report on Douma uses allegedly all the way through it and they were not given access to any bodies.

I have many time challenged video/photographic evidence over the years in various incidents and campaigns and in several cases because of the analysis they have been withdrawn.
(I live a few miles away from a military photographic analysis training school and suspicious video/photographs are good practice.)

The amount of fake/staged video/photos undermines the real incidents.

[cromwell]

There is more that one video questioning that attack:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xcsH2EJOis

A BBC producer eh? Well you always dismiss representatives of msm as liars......till it suits.
Do you remember the Salisbury attacks and the image on the BBC of two Russians suspected of staging the attack,and what did you say "it's all lies I tell you"

[papasmurf]

Fine words, but the fact is that you came in and played the man and totally ignored the ball.
Have you actually watched the video? I posted it deliberately in the Video section, to encourage people to watch it.

There is more that one video questioning that attack:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xcsH2EJOis

[Sampanviking]

No I don't think my country right or wrong,Bliar and Bush I believe have a lot to answer for and have said so.

It's not just this in particular but whatever the circumstance concerning the Chinese,Russians and Putin.....Assad too but you and smurfy jump up to blame the west and absolve them.
No Trump may be an idiot others in the west have their criminal acts to be brought to book for but the ones with eyes closed are you smurfy others too.

Fine words, but the fact is that you came in and played the man and totally ignored the ball.
Have you actually watched the video? I posted it deliberately in the Video section, to encourage people to watch it.

[papasmurf]

the ones with eyes closed are you smurfy others too.

It is you with your eyes closed.  You believe any old waffle and propaganda put in front of you when analysis shows it for what it is.
Even the OPCW could come to no conclusion about that Douma incident and use the word alleged many time in their very long report.
It was a long time before they were allowed access to the site. They were never allowed to examine any bodies, (if there were any,)
Also handling casualties with no protective equipment and their being no consequences beggars belief.

[cromwell]

Rather than just a knee jerk reaction why not actually watch the video and listen to the testimony, this is all official and on the record and relates to the views and findings of the very senior weapons inspectors that led the OPCW mission.
This is about an supposedly impartial International body being subverted by a super power to promote false evidence in the interest of a Political Agenda. Just look at how pissed Trump was when the WHO told him to take a running jump, when they tried it on them.
Still I guess you will just close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and sing "My country right or wrong" in the best Tufton Bufton tradition.

No I don't think my country right or wrong,Bliar and Bush I believe have a lot to answer for and have said so.

It's not just this in particular but whatever the circumstance concerning the Chinese,Russians and Putin.....Assad too but you and smurfy jump up to blame the west and absolve them.
No Trump may be an idiot others in the west have their criminal acts to be brought to book for but the ones with eyes closed are you smurfy others too.

[Sampanviking]

well what a surprise you and Sampan would elevate the Chinese ,Putin and Assad to sainthood meanwhile the west are all a bunch of murderous bastards always wrong and never to be trusted.

Rather than just a knee jerk reaction why not actually watch the video and listen to the testimony, this is all official and on the record and relates to the views and findings of the very senior weapons inspectors that led the OPCW mission.
This is about an supposedly impartial International body being subverted by a super power to promote false evidence in the interest of a Political Agenda. Just look at how pissed Trump was when the WHO told him to take a running jump, when they tried it on them.
Still I guess you will just close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and sing "My country right or wrong" in the best Tufton Bufton tradition.

[papasmurf]

Nonsense?
Nah that's your speciality.

Belief of any bullshine you are fed by the media/press/governments is yours.
I prefer to apply systematic scepticism to any incident, especially where video and photographs are used as "evidence."
Handling casualties of an alleged chemical attack (The OPCW used alleged all the way through it's very long report on the incident,) using no protective equipment at all, with no consequences is nonsensical.

[cromwell]

Stop writing nonsense and jumping to conclusions that don't exist. That attack always looked iffy from the video shown at the time. People handling the casualties using no protective equipment and coming to no harm.  That stank from the start.

Nonsense?
Nah that's your speciality.

[papasmurf]

well what a surprise you and Sampan would elevarpte the Chinese ,Putin and Assad to sainthood meanwhile the west are all a bunch of murderous bastards always wrong and never to be trusted.

Stop writing nonsense and jumping to conclusions that don't exist. That attack always looked iffy from the video shown at the time. People handling the casualties using no protective equipment and coming to no harm.  That stank from the start.

[cromwell]

So have I.

well what a surprise you and Sampan would elevate the Chinese ,Putin and Assad to sainthood meanwhile the west are all a bunch of murderous bastards always wrong and never to be trusted.