They quite literally cannot stop lying can they?

[Major Sinic]

There is the world of difference between making a statement which you sincerely to be true but is shown not to be and deliberately making a statement which you know to be untrue with the objective of influencing others.



Unfortunately the antagonism, anger and resentment among all areas of the population is repeated throughout our third rate political community. It is therefore inevitable that those seeking personal or party election are going to make both well intended errors as well as even more regrettably outright lies.



I have to say I admired Ian Austin for his courage and principle when he spoke today condemning Corbyn as unfit to be Prime Minister and unfit to lead the Labour Party. There then followed the most blatant and deliberate lie of the morning from John McDonnell, opposition chancellor who stated categorically that Ian Austin is employed by the Tories. The truth is that he is a civil servant employed as a trade envoy to Israel by the Department of International Trade.



So Mr McDonnell you deliberately smear and lie about a man who, unlike your boss Corbyn, has been a hard working and loyal member of the Labour Party, a Labour MP and Labour Minister for many years. This says so much more about you your own lack of honesty, integrity and moral scruples than it does about Ian Austin.

[Borg Refinery]

Jo Swinson is a lightweight liar. The heavyweights will be along shortly. She was also caught out over a bar graph suggesting the Lib Dems were neck and neck with the Tories, which was utter rubbish as the question asked was specially weighted.

They'll do anything to try to convince the public they are more popular than they really are. They must be trying to use "herd psychology" which seems to have virtually no effect whatsoever at the ballot box.

Barry, if you find any heavyweights in this GE at all be sure to let me know. They are all very pitiful.



I mean is it too much to ask to have decent politicians from all sides? There are some clever Brexiters out there, it wouldn't hurt for them to be running the campaigns but IMHO they seem to be shoved to the back - out of sight & mind. Equally, the remainers are 'fronted' by bloody Swinton.



It's a big joke, all of it. I suppose the snp are the closest thing to politically-able heavyweights comparatively speaking.

[Barry]

Jo Swinson is a lightweight liar. The heavyweights will be along shortly. She was also caught out over a bar graph suggesting the Lib Dems were neck and neck with the Tories, which was utter rubbish as the question asked was specially weighted.

They'll do anything to try to convince the public they are more popular than they really are. They must be trying to use "herd psychology" which seems to have virtually no effect whatsoever at the ballot box.

[papasmurf]

And what are they hoping to achieve with all of this exactly? It is very unlikely to work.

Just wait until the leaflets from the other parties arrive. I think all such leaflets should be checked by the Advertising Standards Authority first.

[Baron von Lotsov]

They tell us how well they are doing so they can avoid committing to policy. You see they don't know what their masters want them to do yet. It's the solution to the problem of broken manifesto promises.

[Borg Refinery]

Dodgy leaflet watch: get home to find this from the LibDems, complete with upbeat headline from the Guardian.

Well, it is from the Guardian - but we were quoting Jo Swinson.....

https://fullfact.org/news/lib-dem-leaflet-false-quote/">From full fact -

[LD Leaflet claim] .....The Guardian [headline] said "Lib Dems winning and on the up after by-election victory" in August 2019.

[size=150]This is misleading. The quote is an edited version of the Guardian headline, which made clear that the words originally came from Jo Swinson, not the Guardian itself

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And what are they hoping to achieve with all of this exactly? It is very unlikely to work.