Ian Austin says vote Conservative

[Thomas]

I think so too only he and party faithful can't face reality which is not unusual , I was up North  last weekend in my home town a Labour stronghold those who I spoke to relatives and old school friends from way back over a pint or two.



Most stated the days of voting traditionally for Labour are long gone most wanted Brexit, they fear the economic disaster the Marxists will cause more, called Corbyn and his close cronies out of touch with the workers champagnes Charlies living in big houses in London

Labour traditionally rely on mindless voting fodder .If that is starting to disappear  , then they are in big big trouble.



The public in scotland and england are getting massively politically engaged over brexit and scot indy , have massive amounts of info at their fingertips  , and the days of voting donkeys with red rosettes hopefully are over.



I have family near forum mod cromwell in north west england , and they are traditional labour voters , and each and every one of them have said they cant stand corbyn and will be voting brexit party instead.



They are a joke ,and their disasterous position on brexit is an even bigger joke.

[Churchill]

I think corbyn is going to take a severe kicking churchill.



They are polling fourth in scotland  , feckin fourth in scotland their old fiefdom. Plaid cymru are eating into their votes the last welsh poll i saw , and in england the leave majority are going to vote tory.



I would say the hard left momentum project is about to come to an end in december.

I think so too only he and party faithful can't face reality which is not unusual , I was up North  last weekend in my home town a Labour stronghold those who I spoke to relatives and old school friends from way back over a pint or two.



Most stated the days of voting traditionally for Labour are long gone most wanted Brexit, they fear the economic disaster the Marxists will cause more, called Corbyn and his close cronies out of touch with the workers champagnes Charlies living in big houses in London

[Major Sinic]

I also have to wonder if the many and various sites that link him to Labour Friends of Israel and a little job he was offered AFTER he left the Labour party to become an independent play any part in his condemnation of a man he clearly wishes to label as a zionist hater...

He makes no secret that the institutuional anti-semitism and Corbyn's inability and/or unwillingness to do anything about it is a major factor, but not the only factor, in his decision to speak out.



Whether Corbyn is an anti-semite is a moot point. He certainly objected to the removal of Kalin Ockerman's anti-Jewish mural described by Labour Peer Lord Falconor as 'indefensibly anti-semitic'.  Of course he only apologised for his defence of the mural and objection to its removal after he became leader of the Labour Party.



He was also a member of the private social media site Palestine Live which was riven with anti-semitic posts although he resigned in 2015 coincidentally at about the time he became Labour Party Leader.



For decades he festered in the far left of the Labour Party (as of course he still does) and was closely associated with a number of fellow left-wing extremists known now to be anti-semites such as Chris Williamson who has finally, and after much internal defence, been expelled from the Labour Party for anti-semitism. Numerous Labour MPs have resigned from the Labour Party because of its endemic anti-semitism.



The eastern european totalitarian political philosophies tend to focus their widespread racism on Jews. A credible theory was the Trots, Communists Marxists et al were anti-capitalist and focused their hatred on the Jews who were so successful within the capitalist banking world.



Personally I think Corbyn despite his efforts to reinvent his public image is an anti-semite. If you mix with dogs you catch fleas!

[Thomas]

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similar in wales......



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and yorkshire.....



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[Thomas]

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labour support massively down in the north west of england too.....

[Thomas]

::  Have not heard that expression for years thanks



Here is an article the author being a Chief Rabbi as I have said British Jews are fearful of living in the UK due to the increase of anti Jewish rhetoric and attacks,



Rabbi Jonathan Romain makes a heartfelt plea not to put Corbyn in No10 https://mol.im/a/7666529">https://mol.im/a/7666529 via @MailOnline



Shalom

I think corbyn is going to take a severe kicking churchill.



They are polling fourth in scotland  , feckin fourth in scotland their old fiefdom. Plaid cymru are eating into their votes the last welsh poll i saw , and in england the leave majority are going to vote tory.



I would say the hard left momentum project is about to come to an end in december.

[Churchill]

Probably not.



I reckon that the bulk of the electorate have decided who they are going to vote for and provide Boris does not do something arse numbingly stupid in the next 5 weeks, he is home and dry and really does not need Ian Austin.



But there is still a quiet pleasure in seeing Wurzel getting a kick in the wedding tackle.  

 ::  Have not heard that expression for years thanks



Here is an article the author being a Chief Rabbi as I have said British Jews are fearful of living in the UK due to the increase of anti Jewish rhetoric and attacks,



Rabbi Jonathan Romain makes a heartfelt plea not to put Corbyn in No10 https://mol.im/a/7666529">https://mol.im/a/7666529 via @MailOnline



Shalom

[Borg Refinery]

There's more Mr Barry -

[Borg Refinery]

So they've had more than 9 years and it's not FUBARd yet. I think your prediction is rubbish.

Not so sure brother, give it time -



Moodies lowers credit outlook to neg



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UK growth to be cut in half as Brexit uncertainty hits Bank of England



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And then there is this....

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The report claims that an end to borderless trade could bring crippling disruptions to the industry's just-in-time operating model. Delays to shipments of parts to production plants are measured in minutes, with every 60 seconds costing £50,000 in gross value added – amounting to some £70m a day in a worst case scenario.



SMMT adds that combined with WTO tariffs, which for trade in passenger cars alone amount to £4.5bn a year, this would deliver a knockout blow to the sector's competitiveness, undermining a decade of extraordinary growth.



Addressing an audience of business leaders and government officials at the industry's annual International Automotive Summit in London Mike Hawes, SMMT chief executive, said, "Automotive matters to UK trade and to the economy, and this report shows that, if the right choices are made, a bright future is possible. However, 'no deal' remains the clear and present danger. We are already seeing the consequences of uncertainty, the fear of no deal. The next PM's first job in office must be to secure a deal that maintains frictionless trade because, for our industry, 'no deal' is not an option and we don't have the luxury of time."



Automotive is the UK's single biggest exporter of goods, trading with some 160 countries worldwide, and accounting for more than 14 per cent of total exports. The sector is one of the country's most valuable economic assets, directly employing 168,000 people and delivering an annual £18.6bn to the public purse.



Current state of UK auto manufacturing:



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Brexit: £1 trillion of assets and 7,000 banking jobs moved from UK to EU so far, research finds

City of London firms also spent £4bn on contingency plans, legal advice and new offices in European financial centres, report finds



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Carmakers across Europe unite to warn of the dangers of Brexit:



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Brexit is "not just a British" problem, car manufacturers from across Europe are warning, as they appeal for politicians on both sides of the Channel to avoid the UK crashing out of the trading bloc without a trade deal.



The heads of 23 automotive trade bodies from across Europe have joined forces to spell out the likely damage of such a situation to the highly integrated industry.

[Barry]

If the Tories carry on as they have been since May 2010 if they win, the country will be fubared within months.

So they've had more than 9 years and it's not FUBARd yet. I think your prediction is rubbish.

[Nick]

It's not about policy at the moment, this is a Brexit GE pure and simple. We know the Tories will get us out and we know they will look after the economy. That's enough for me at the moment, we can work on the rest once someone does what I voted for in 2016.

[T00ts]

I have never been inclined to vote for Labour in 50 years of being able to vote under Corbyn and his Marxists Puppet Masters behind the scenes no way at all even if they were the only party on offer, I have usually been more inclined to vote Conservative as being the better choice of a bad bunch.



Now I have to decide being a strong supporter of Brexit do I vote for the Brexit Party if a candidate does stand in my Borough I don't yet if one will or do I back the Tories and the Boris deal which I do not really like or understand what it will entail in the long term.



If no Brexit candidate stands in my constituency I will vote for the Tories simply to try and keep Labour out , as they without a shadow of a doubt will destroy my country and the rest of the UK in less than a year, two at the most.

I have exactly the same dilemma and as the days pass I find I am less convinced than ever. The news of so many seemingly unworthy candidates on all sides makes me even more concerned as to the calibre of those putting themselves forward.

I can't help but wonder though if we have the candidates we deserve. The  last posse in Westminster has angered and frustrated so many of the electorate in the past 3 years that it is hardly surprising that that anger has spilled over into attacks on the value of parliament, but that in itself may well have lowered the standard of future candidates simply from fear. The point being I suppose that now any politician needs to make only promises that they are prepared to keep. Scrutiny is so much higher and instantaneous now via the media. It is time for integrity.

[papasmurf]

If no Brexit candidate stands in my constituency I will vote for the Tories simply to try and keep Labour out , as they without a shadow of a doubt will destroy my country and the rest of the UK in less than a year, two at the most.

If the Tories carry on as they have been since May 2010 if they win, the country will be fubared within months.

[Churchill]

I have never been inclined to vote for Labour in 50 years of being able to vote under Corbyn and his Marxists Puppet Masters behind the scenes no way at all even if they were the only party on offer, I have usually been more inclined to vote Conservative as being the better choice of a bad bunch.



Now I have to decide being a strong supporter of Brexit do I vote for the Brexit Party if a candidate does stand in my Borough I don't yet if one will or do I back the Tories and the Boris deal which I do not really like or understand what it will entail in the long term.



If no Brexit candidate stands in my constituency I will vote for the Tories simply to try and keep Labour out , as they without a shadow of a doubt will destroy my country and the rest of the UK in less than a year, two at the most.

[johnofgwent]

It's interesting that, I think we take much more notice of Ian Austin saying that Corbyn stinks and to vote for Boris, than we would, say, Sajid Javid saying Corbyn stinks and to vote for Boris.

Here we have a member of the mainstream Labour party speaking against the leader, confirming he is unfit to govern. All it needs now is Tony B.Liar to come along and tell us to vote for Boris and the circle will be complete.

I also have to wonder if the many and various sites that link him to Labour Friends of Israel and a little job he was offered AFTER he left the Labour party to become an independent play any part in his condemnation of a man he clearly wishes to label as a zionist hater...