John Bercow: I’ve had antisemitic abuse myself, but I don’t believe Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic

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Sheepy

Quote from: "patman post" post_id=4742 time=1573219979 user_id=70
Ex-speaker Bercow would appear to be correct — it's mostly been the Tory Brexiteers who've wanted him out, and there's as much anti-semitism to be found among them as in rank and file Labour MPs...


Well it just might have been he is a rabid remainer,who was doing as much damage as possible to leave,who has openly admitted being an rabid remainer several times since.But no of course it would have to be he is Jewish,bollox.
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Quote from: "patman post" post_id=4742 time=1573219979 user_id=70
Ex-speaker Bercow would appear to be correct — it's mostly been the Tory Brexiteers who've wanted him out, and there's as much anti-semitism to be found among them as in rank and file Labour MPs...


It's just an excuse to forego the tradition of campaigning on your manifesto. You know - at election time child MPs call each other names, like in the school playground, and the voter gets to decide on this basis.



Te hee hee, eeeeze anti-semetic.

Geeeet lost -you're a white winger and you smell - so there!!!
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papasmurf

Quote from: Dynamis post_id=4764 time=1573228147 user_id=98
He may be referring to this






I have been suspicious of the rabid accusations  of anti-Semitism aimed at the Labour party from the day it appeared for one simple reason.

Who were the enthusiastic supporters of Oswald Mosley and who attacked the Black Shirts in the East End of London.

(I would also add why is the establishment so fearful of Mosley interviews when he was interned that they slapped a 100 ban on their publication.)
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Borg Refinery

Quote from: "Major Sinic" post_id=4748 time=1573222631 user_id=84
Any chance of some credible evidence to support this statement.


He may be referring to this



"The graph suggests that 32 per cent of Labour supporters agreed with one of the antisemitic statements they were presented with. That's somewhat lower than Conservative supporters (40 per cent).



Among the political parties, Liberal Democrats are least likely to agree with an antisemitic statement (30 per cent)."



https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-antisemitism-political-parties">https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck ... al-parties">https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-antisemitism-political-parties



There's all this too..



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Conservative_Party#cite_ref-131">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisem ... te_ref-131">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Conservative_Party#cite_ref-131



Idk who's more or less anti-semitic personally but both sides will continue the mud flinging in perpetuity.
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papasmurf

Quote from: "Major Sinic" post_id=4749 time=1573222674 user_id=84
Off on one again and as usual no evidence


I am not responsible for your cognitive dissonance when you have been given the evidence. That you don't believe it is your problem not mine.



This is just one of a series of videos on the subject:-



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3dn-VV3czc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3dn-VV3czc
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papasmurf

Quote from: "patman post" post_id=4746 time=1573220861 user_id=70
I've not seen any reports of Netanyahu support for ousting Bercow...


Neither have I.
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Major Sinic

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=4743 time=1573220097 user_id=89
And Benjamin Netanyahu, who funded/funds the anti-Corbyn propaganda campaign.


Off on one again and as usual no evidence

Major Sinic

Quote from: "patman post" post_id=4742 time=1573219979 user_id=70
Ex-speaker Bercow would appear to be correct — it's mostly been the Tory Brexiteers who've wanted him out, and there's as much anti-semitism to be found among them as in rank and file Labour MPs...


Any chance of some credible evidence to support this statement.

Churchill

Corbyn may not be an anti-Semite himself but he does have issues with Israel, however there is overwhelming evidence that there are fervent anti-Semites fascists in the Labour Party, some of them at the top of the tree and in positions of influence.



Corbyn is the head of the Party and has done little if anything for far too long about them, they should have been given their cards a long time ago he could have nipped the problem in the bud instead he as indecisive as ever did not, therefore the problem has increased.



Some British Jews have left the Party many British Jews will no longer vote for Labour whilst the cancer within the party is left untreated and unchecked.



As I have stated in another thread British Jews are leaving the UK so are others across the EU they fear the worst for their personal safety and for their families their own history tells them be one step ahead of those who would do them harm.



I don't think canvasses for the Labour Party will be that successful with many Jews in the boroughs of North London that have large Jewish communities



As for Campbell not a person who I would trust at all, he's a manipulator of words a smoke and mirrors man a front man what they called in the Wild West a Snake Oil Salesman
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patman post

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=4743 time=1573220097 user_id=89
And Benjamin Netanyahu, who funded/funds the anti-Corbyn propaganda campaign.

I've not seen any reports of Netanyahu support for ousting Bercow...
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papasmurf

Quote from: "patman post" post_id=4742 time=1573219979 user_id=70
— it's mostly been the Tory Brexiteers who've wanted him out,


And Benjamin Netanyahu, who funded/funds the anti-Corbyn propaganda campaign.
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patman post

Ex-speaker Bercow would appear to be correct — it's mostly been the Tory Brexiteers who've wanted him out, and there's as much anti-semitism to be found among them as in rank and file Labour MPs...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

papasmurf

Not getting an airing in the mainstream media/press at all:-



More at link:-



https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/john-bercow-i-ve-experienced-antisemitism-myself-jeremy-corbyn-labour-has-a-big-issue-to-address-1.492857">https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/john ... s-1.492857">https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/john-bercow-i-ve-experienced-antisemitism-myself-jeremy-corbyn-labour-has-a-big-issue-to-address-1.492857



Former speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow has said that he does not believe Jeremy Corbyn to be an antisemite, but that Labour had a "big issue".

Speaking to Alastair Campbell for GQ Magazine, Mr Bercow said that "though there is a big issue, and it has to be addressed, I do not myself believe that Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic. That is my honest view.

"I'm not saying that he doesn't have a challenge in his party... I respect those who are very concerned about it, but I don't believe Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic.

"I've known him for the 22 years I've been in parliament – even, actually, when I was a right-winger, we got on pretty well... I've never detected so much as a whiff of antisemitism [from him]."

Mr Campbell had asked him about his views on the "Labour party antisemitism debate" as a Jew, to which he responded: "I think that racism is a challenge across society and after decades in which huge advances were made, I think there is a real danger of regression now.
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