Off topic thread (to the tower)

[papasmurf]

Yet another example of DWP/DWP contractor nastiness:-



https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/north_essex_news/18072086.dwp-u-turn-stopping-shauns-benefits/">https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co ... -benefits/">https://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/north_essex_news/18072086.dwp-u-turn-stopping-shauns-benefits/

[Churchill]

Wrong guess , perhaps you should have considered what I thought about the DM and BBC articles, if you had I would have simple said the Head of the UK Statistics is the more reliable source to be more accurate than Corbyn and the person who briefed him

[papasmurf]

Of course I have read it,  :roll:

From you comments it appears you have not.

[Churchill]

Of course I have read it,  :roll:

[papasmurf]

They found loads,

They didn't, so that is more bollocks from you.

The data and statistics published on a regular basis (which I reference on this forum on a regular basis) which you fail to read prove it is more bollocks from you.



Freedom of information request answer. The vast majority of those who report benefit frauds are wrong:-



https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/431402/response/1044201/attach/html/3/3808%20Reply.pdf.html">https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... y.pdf.html">https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/431402/response/1044201/attach/html/3/3808%20Reply.pdf.html

[papasmurf]

I anticipated your knee jerk action reaction that is why I held this link back



 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50663781">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50663781, which was also in the media yesterday

Have you actually read that BBC report. It was hardly a rebuke compared with the number of severe bollockings of Iain Duncan Smith for misusing statistics.

[Churchill]

I anticipated your knee jerk action reaction that is why I held this link back



 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50663781">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50663781, which was also in the media yesterday

[Wiggles]

It was an anecdote, with no proof to back it up.

I am NOT interested in anecdotes or your unfounded in fact allegations.

When the Tories got into power in May 2010 they believed their own propaganda that there were a million "scroungers" on disability benefits that could be found work and the savings could be used to fund Universal Credit.

It did not take long for their assumption to be proved very wrong.

All that has happened is the very hostile environment by the Tories towards disabled people has led to thousands of deaths and suicides with the Tories having a "tin ear" about.

You disgust me.

They found loads, unfortunately the left wing snowflakes working in the appeal courts turned over sensible decisions. The good thing is that we shall shortly have another Tory government for next five years, and hopefully Boris will sort it out. I suspect you would like to see Corbyn come in, who no doubt would bankrupt the country again by giving even more money to people who refuse to work.

[papasmurf]

It was in the media yesterday



 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7756071/UK-statistics-watchdog-blasts-Jeremy-Corbyn-violent-crime-claims.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7756071/UK-statistics-watchdog-blasts-Jeremy-Corbyn-violent-crime-claims.html

The Daily Mail, not a credible source.

[papasmurf]

It's an example, not an anecdote,

It was an anecdote, with no proof to back it up.

I am NOT interested in anecdotes or your unfounded in fact allegations.

When the Tories got into power in May 2010 they believed their own propaganda that there were a million "scroungers" on disability benefits that could be found work and the savings could be used to fund Universal Credit.

It did not take long for their assumption to be proved very wrong.

All that has happened is the very hostile environment by the Tories towards disabled people has led to thousands of deaths and suicides with the Tories having a "tin ear" about.

You disgust me.

[Wiggles]

More anecdotes from you I am NOT interested. I will always be rude to trolls and neo-nazis like you.

It's an example, not an anecdote, you really need to tell the difference. Examples prove a point, and that's why I post them. I am just guessing here, so forgive me if I am wrong. Either you or a loved one are disabled. You live in a house paid for by the tax payer, your transport is paid for by the tax payer, your food is paid for by the tax payer, the clothes on your back are paid for by the tax payer, and the computer you are using are paid for the tax payer, in fact everything you do and own are paid for by the tax payer. YET, you will still moan that you aren't given enough. Now, if that isn't you, it describes millions of other people in this country.

[papasmurf]

Firstly, I have avoided being rude to you, so please offer me the same privilege.

More anecdotes from you I am NOT interested. I will always be rude to trolls and neo-nazis like you.

[Wiggles]

Yes you have every time you post, I hope one of those you are wrongly accusing of fraud sues you.

Please sir, refer me to a post where I have been abusive towards disabled people.

[Wiggles]

You really are an idiot, the car is in many cases so they can get too and from work. Without the car they can't.

So because of your pig ignorance of the system you would much rather disabled people should be trapped at home with no means of leaving it.

You really are a nasty bastard.

Firstly, I have avoided being rude to you, so please offer me the same privilege. The neighbors I refer to are both in their 70s and don't work. However, your argument doesn't hold anyway. Able people still need to get to work, and in most cases require a car, but they don't get any sort of government allowance to do so. A good friend of mine, who is quite well off, receives a disabled benefit for his so called disabled son. Yes, his son does have some type of disability, but on a 100 yard sprint he would leave me standing. By his own admittance he has told me he would have to buy a car anyway, and is more than capable of funding it. As a result of the benefit systems generosity he has a fully funded vehicle. You probably think this fair and just, I happen to think it is bonkers, and will no doubt lower yourself to being personally abusive towards me.

[papasmurf]

I have said nothing nasty about genuine disabled people,

Yes you have every time you post, I hope one of those you are wrongly accusing of fraud sues you.