Gunboats you say? I do indeed

[Borchester]

Nothing hard about it Gerry,Ireland was always going to unite eventually,should never have been partitioned but there you go that's the past.

If that is what the Irish want then it is only fair that they should have it. It will mean at least a 17% drop in the average wage in the Republic but as Gerry will be the first to admit, somethings are more important than money.

[cromwell]

I agree, but Brexit is a catalyst. The difficulty is by not letting it be sorted organically the push that brexit provides will again divide the NI population at a time when wounds were healing. Any talk now of a united IRL will drive the NI Unionist community over the edge. Personally more time is needed to breed out that ingrained emotion from both communities

No Gerry it's simple there should be a vote,do you wish to remain part of the U.K. or not.

That means if you vote stay the border goes up if nay you unite,anyone who wants to remain Brits move here or put up with unification.

[GerryT]

Nothing hard about it Gerry,Ireland was always going to unite eventually,should never have been partitioned but there you go that's the past.

I agree, but Brexit is a catalyst. The difficulty is by not letting it be sorted organically the push that brexit provides will again divide the NI population at a time when wounds were healing. Any talk now of a united IRL will drive the NI Unionist community over the edge. Personally more time is needed to breed out that ingrained emotion from both communities

[cromwell]

That would be hard, if NI leaves then the UK no longer exists. Will whats left go back to being called GB.
Talking about democracy, Johnsons 2019 manifest pledged to take the whole of the UK out of the EU, hes failing on that part by introducing a border in the UK, leaving NI as a integral part of the EU, a mirror replica copying each EU move. He also pledged to agree a trade deal in 2020, lets see, hes a couple of days to get that right.

Nothing hard about it Gerry,Ireland was always going to unite eventually,should never have been partitioned but there you go that's the past.

[GerryT]

Try the Irish Protocol Gerry.
That should clear it up for you.

This explains it, as said the border and checks/tariffs are all at a border between NI and GB, at UK ports. Zero checks/tariffs

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/brexit-explainer-what-is-the-latest-deal-on-northern-ireland-about-1.4432140

What is funny, the UK put its foot down and TOLD the EU it couldn't in any way, shape or form have an office in NI for it's customs inspectors (15 number). These inspectors will oversee the UK customs officials at the NI ports, to make sure their doing what should be done. There's Johnson putting the boot in to the EU, but wait the UK is providing "hot desks for 15" in NI for the EU inspectors. It's not an office, no way. It's just a room with desks and phones and internet but it's def. not an office, no way.

[GerryT]

Yeah well Gerryweshouldve told the eu to stuff it where the sun don't shine.

It's fairly simple NI and Scotland voted remain,they have a choice go their own way or stick with the U.K. Which as an entity voted leave.

Tough seeing democracy at work ain't it Gerry.

That would be hard, if NI leaves then the UK no longer exists. Will whats left go back to being called GB.
Talking about democracy, Johnsons 2019 manifest pledged to take the whole of the UK out of the EU, hes failing on that part by introducing a border in the UK, leaving NI as a integral part of the EU, a mirror replica copying each EU move. He also pledged to agree a trade deal in 2020, lets see, hes a couple of days to get that right.

[Baff]

Try the Irish Protocol Gerry.
That should clear it up for you.

[cromwell]

nope zero checks from NI to ROI and from ROI to NI. Zero checks, no customs, no additional barriers of any kind. Just like it is today and the way its been for many years.
But there are checks, customs and in cases tariffs from UK to NI and NI to UK.
I'LL dig something out that explains it.

Yeah well Gerryweshouldve told the eu to stuff it where the sun don't shine.

It's fairly simple NI and Scotland voted remain,they have a choice go their own way or stick with the U.K. Which as an entity voted leave.

Tough seeing democracy at work ain't it Gerry.

[GerryT]

Incorrect.

S Ireland is the in the EU customs union.
NI is in the UK customs union.
Tariffs apply from January 1st.

Apply to the government online for your export certifications.

Checks are not going to be made on the border. But they are going to be made.

Agricultural rules and standards in NI are to remain the same as in SI. The EU set standard.
All other rules and standards are set from the UK.

nope zero checks from NI to ROI and from ROI to NI. Zero checks, no customs, no additional barriers of any kind. Just like it is today and the way its been for many years.
But there are checks, customs and in cases tariffs from UK to NI and NI to UK.
I'LL dig something out that explains it.

[Baff]

Agh seriously Baff, goods ROI to NI and goods originating in NI to ROI are with zero checks and zero tariffs.

Incorrect.

S Ireland is the in the EU customs union.
NI is in the UK customs union.
Tariffs apply from January 1st.

Apply to the government online for your export certifications.

Checks are not going to be made on the border. But they are going to be made.

Agricultural rules and standards in NI are to remain the same as in SI. The EU set standard.
All other rules and standards are set from the UK.

[GerryT]

Incorrect.

Tariffs and checks are applicable.

Agh seriously Baff, goods ROI to NI and goods originating in NI to ROI are with zero checks and zero tariffs. To make this happen NI stays aligned with EU rules and standards and any goods coming into NI, including from GB will be subject to full checks and tariffs unless goods from GB can be shown to stsy in NI.

Surprised you didnt know that. Thank your glorious leader Johnson for brokering that deal, he maks May look like a genious.

[Baff]

Goods can travel to NI from ROI with zero checks or tariffs.

Incorrect.

Tariffs and checks are applicable.

[Baff]

Will they be delivering xmas cheer from above.. without prejudice?

With extreme prejudice.

That we do not, does not mean we cannot or will not.

[GerryT]

Gosh are you admitting that your country is full of crooks?

How would that be illegal ??
Goods can travel to NI from ROI with zero checks or tariffs. The UK signed up to that in the WA. now if the UK decide to check nothing going GB to NI then thats a UK internal issue, isnt it ?

[T00ts]

Checks on animals from GB to NI exist today, thats the current arrangement. The UK may decide to check nothing, a smugglers paradise. How would GB know a NI company were just shipping goods from ROI to GB tariff free. Sure thats brilliant, all ROI has to do is ship from a NI address and we can get all our goods into the UK tariff free.

Gosh are you admitting that your country is full of crooks?