Tories Urge Tory Activists to Deliberately Lie; Goebbels Playbook Stuff

Started by Dynamis, December 18, 2020, 05:32:54 PM

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DeppityDawg


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Well, if I won the lottery or coem into a big inheritance or some other windfall, you know what? I promise to get you those things as a xmas present.
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papasmurf

Quote from: Dynamis on December 18, 2020, 06:40:02 PM
It's xmas, try to calm down a bit or you'll end up like Cromwell.  ;D ;D ;D

I have not put up the razor wire yet or got the two attack dogs.
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It's xmas, try to calm down a bit or you'll end up like Cromwell.  ;D ;D ;D
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papasmurf

Quote from: Dynamis on December 18, 2020, 06:30:43 PM
Well torrents are blocked on my ISP sadly, but I was hoping to torrent some nice FLAC audio files of old Crosby, Stills and Nash stuff. Any recommendations?

Now you are joining in with the forum idiots.
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Quote from: papasmurf on December 18, 2020, 06:20:01 PM
Because I would get the usual torrent of abuse, ridicule and attack.

Well torrents are blocked on my ISP sadly, but I was hoping to torrent some nice FLAC audio files of old Crosby, Stills and Nash stuff. Any recommendations?
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papasmurf

Quote from: Dynamis on December 18, 2020, 06:07:41 PM


However, that's a much more interesting story you've linked and I'm wondering why you didn't make a thread about it.

Because I would get the usual torrent of abuse, ridicule and attack.
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Quote from: papasmurf on December 18, 2020, 05:52:19 PM
Not a news item Gove has been overseeing the policy for a long time, ever since Dominic Cummings brainwashed him.

Gove is also blocking Freedom Of Information requests

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/freedom-of-information-foi-clearing-house-b1760830.html

It is a news item when even the The Times are saying "Tory Bad Tory Bad". They are correct.. Tory bad.

However, that's a much more interesting story you've linked and I'm wondering why you didn't make a thread about it. That's VERY concerning and I wasn't at all aware of it. We were warned by the council of Europe for doing very Fascist stuff with journo's once before..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/press-freedom-uk-government-council-europe-alert-boris-johnson-priti-patel-a9706741.html

I'm just saying this stuff needs to be exposed and shown to all and sundry.
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papasmurf

Not a news item Gove has been overseeing the policy for a long time, ever since Dominic Cummings brainwashed him.

Gove is also blocking Freedom Of Information requests

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/freedom-of-information-foi-clearing-house-b1760830.html
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe


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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tories-take-a-leaf-out-of-trumps-playbook-9tggdlmjl

Even the Times think it's disgusting.

Here's a better take -

One Tory called the tactics 'an attack on democracy', saying: 'The Conservative Party has changed. It's not what I joined'</p>
One Tory called the tactics 'an attack on democracy', saying: 'The Conservative Party has changed. It's not what I joined'

Tory activists have been urged to campaign like Donald Trump by "weaponising fake news" and talking "nonsense" if it works, in a party newsletter.

The bulletin sent out to members in Northamptonshire says "there are lessons that we can learn from Trump", adding: "A lie can go round the world before the truth can get its boots on."


It also vows to "fight woke-ism", attacking Labour's landmark Equality Act, designed to stamp out prejudice in the workplace and public services – arguing it "legalises discrimination based on gender".

The newsletter, issued in Peter Bone's constituency of Wellingborough, sparked a protest from one local Conservative, who says he was then dropped from the candidates' list for the seat.

Jack Summers told The Times, which revealed it, that he had received threatening phone calls warning him that his political career was over if he did not fall into line.

"I'm not willing to go along with what's being instructed," he said.

"This is an attack on democracy. The Conservative Party has changed. It's not what I joined – it seems more like an English nationalist party than the Conservative Party."


The newsletter says campaigners should view fake news as a technique that "crowds out genuine news" and allows "honest politicians" to be "pushed off the front pages".

"You say the first thing that comes into your head," it reads, adding: "It'll probably be nonsense, but it knocks your opponent out of his stride and takes away his headline.

"You may get a bad headline saying that you spoke something silly, but you can live that down. Meanwhile your opponent is knocked off the news-feed"


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-activists-trump-wellingborough-fake-news-b1774341.html

Sounds similar to Goebbels.. a lie can go round the world.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Sources: Thinkexist.com https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-on-the-quot-big-lie-quot

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