Fishing off to a bumpy start, but we have our blue passports

[Baff]

UK fresh fish and live shellfish export to the  EU are at a standstill, the reasons being 100% the fault of the UK government.

The certificates are issued by vets.
Ring one up if you don't want to wait for the government inspector.
Vets love money.

[papasmurf]

The french aren't worried. All the EU quota cuts have been handed to the Irish.
You didn't think the French were going to take them did you?

UK fresh fish and live shellfish export to the  EU are at a standstill, the reasons being 100% the fault of the UK government.

[Baff]

The French shouldn't worry, the EU tied the 5yr fish negotiations in with the access for the UK to the EU single energy market. If the UK looses this it still gets energy from the mainland but not at the discount rates, loosing this has been estimated to cost the UK 2b a yr. What do you think will happen to EU boat access to UK waters, it's chicken feed, Johnson has all ready double crossed UK fishermen, he doesn't care about them.

The french aren't worried. All the EU quota cuts have been handed to the Irish.
You didn't think the French were going to take them did you?

[papasmurf]

  My goal in life is achieved 

Streetwalker it is the thought of one official trying to stop a mob of angry Cornish fishermen from taking direct action against a French fishing boat trying to land fish that is amusing.

[Streetwalker]

You make me laugh you really do.

  My goal in life is achieved   

[papasmurf]

The port authorities would make sure its not .

You make me laugh you really do.

[Streetwalker]

A French fishing boat trying to land fish at a British port would be a dangerous thing to attempt.

The port authorities would make sure its not .

[papasmurf]

Cornish fishing boats "gathering dust."  Not news to me:-

More at link.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-55563678

Cornish fishing boats 'gathering dust' as EU shellfish exports halt
Published15 hours ago


Cornish fishermen are concerned about the future of their jobs as shellfish exports to the European Union have stopped since the UK left the EU.

"The boats are sat there gathering dust," said one fisherman.

Since 1 January only ready to eat shellfish accompanied by an export health certificate (EHC) can be sent to the EU.

This is due to change in April, but Defra said it was working to allow all shellfish exports sooner.

Shellfish merchant Tom Knight said "We're going to have to fight for this one and see if we can get this sorted."

If it does not get sorted in the next fortnight, "then it's going to get to the stage where it won't happen before the end of the season" he added.

[papasmurf]

As I read it UK flagged vessels can land their catch at any  North Atlantic fisheries commission designated port . There is as expected a few forms to fill in and 4 hours notification must be given to the port of your intent .

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/exporting-or-moving-fish-from-the-uk#direct-landing


Or are the French just throwing a Paddy  ?

A French fishing boat trying to land fish at a British port would be a dangerous thing to attempt.

[Streetwalker]

Not since Brexit. A British fisherman can no longer land fish at a French port. (Other than it would be bloody dangerous to attempt it.)

As I read it UK flagged vessels can land their catch at any  North Atlantic fisheries commission designated port . There is as expected a few forms to fill in and 4 hours notification must be given to the port of your intent .

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/exporting-or-moving-fish-from-the-uk#direct-landing


Or are the French just throwing a Paddy  ?

[papasmurf]

Fishermen do of course have the option of direct landing which basically means they can do it themselves .

Not since Brexit. A British fisherman can no longer land fish at a French port. (Other than it would be bloody dangerous to attempt it.)

[Streetwalker]

Transit problems will get worse, very few shipments EU-UK at the moment. Customs checks in the EU won't change, paperwork needs completing and checking. There's no delays at the moment, lorry parks are empty. Wait until their full and then what happens with Fish ?  how will those truck drivers react if fish shipments keep jumping the queue.
The French shouldn't worry, the EU tied the 5yr fish negotiations in with the access for the UK to the EU single energy market. If the UK looses this it still gets energy from the mainland but not at the discount rates, loosing this has been estimated to cost the UK 2b a yr. What do you think will happen to EU boat access to UK waters, it's chicken feed, Johnson has all ready double crossed UK fishermen, he doesn't care about them.
Do you say that with pride ?
hahahhaahhha, the great empire protecting their rock, a feckin rock in the middle of nowhere. If NI rejoins you'll find that 'rock' will sit in Irish waters or if Scotland leaves it's there's. You'll never keep the rock. It's 25meters by 31meters, if we get it back after reunification we'll build a bridge the 260miles north of Donegal and populate the rock.
I'll let you in on a secret, if the rock becomes an annoyance we'll send the boys up with a little semtex and the rock will be no more. Anyway, back to polishing your medals
Well you'll be catch more fish out at sea, the EU boats will be inside the exclusion zone taking what they want going by earlier reports and your catch will just rot in a lorry park, big win. Oh you have a rock.

Well we will have to see how the ports get on especially with fresh produce . Fishermen do of course have the option of direct landing which basically means they can do it themselves . Probably not the favoured option for most but some do use this option and not being able to land fish in EU ports was a downside of a no deal .,or so we were told .

The French have never had to worry . We will always sell them more than enough to make up for their reduced catch .

Your final meltdown about rocks is neither here nor there .UK waters are UK waters and your boats will have to fish elsewhere .

Oh and semtex ? Really , you need to stop drinking that distilled  potato shite , it will rot your brain .

[papasmurf]

Well look forward to the next election and the result,post bookmarked

It is far more than fishing and associated business that is being badly effected by the dog's Brexit.

[GerryT]

The can of sardines was certainly kicked down the pier with the fishing deal . Our fishermen  are certainly not over the moon about it though some are more realistic accepting that some of the catch had to be given away for access to EU markets . Im sure any transit problems will be sorted ,the Europeans want our fish as much as our fishermen need to sell it to them .

Transit problems will get worse, very few shipments EU-UK at the moment. Customs checks in the EU won't change, paperwork needs completing and checking. There's no delays at the moment, lorry parks are empty. Wait until their full and then what happens with Fish ?  how will those truck drivers react if fish shipments keep jumping the queue.

The Spanish are also up in arms ,the Galacian fleet have major concerns with the deal
https://www.memesita.com/xunta-sees-the-brexit-fishing-agreement-as-alarming-for-the-galician-fleet/
The French reaction was lukewarm with the realisation that the uncertainty of  what  deals will be made in the future could leave their boats high and dry
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mayor-major-french-fishing-port-102013538.html

The French shouldn't worry, the EU tied the 5yr fish negotiations in with the access for the UK to the EU single energy market. If the UK looses this it still gets energy from the mainland but not at the discount rates, loosing this has been estimated to cost the UK 2b a yr. What do you think will happen to EU boat access to UK waters, it's chicken feed, Johnson has all ready double crossed UK fishermen, he doesn't care about them.

Oh and the Irish have come off worse of all . https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-fishing-communities-will-be-disappointed-by-brexit-deal-taoiseach-says-1.4445321

Do you say that with pride ?

And we mean it when we said we would be in control
 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9116045/Irish-trawler-routed-post-Brexit-fishing-clash-contested-Rockall-waters.html

hahahhaahhha, the great empire protecting their rock, a feckin rock in the middle of nowhere. If NI rejoins you'll find that 'rock' will sit in Irish waters or if Scotland leaves it's there's. You'll never keep the rock. It's 25meters by 31meters, if we get it back after reunification we'll build a bridge the 260miles north of Donegal and populate the rock.
I'll let you in on a secret, if the rock becomes an annoyance we'll send the boys up with a little semtex and the rock will be no more. Anyway, back to polishing your medals

For now the British guys get more of the catch  and the foreign guys (apart from the Irish  ) can still earn a good living, even the Spanish can still shop in Gibraltar even if they can't catch Sardines off Cornwall .
When the fog has lifted  and  all becomes clear the fishermen of the UK and Europe will still be catching fish ,the  people of Europe will be eating it and we in the UK will be buying Haddock and Cod off the Norwegian's   

Well you'll be catch more fish out at sea, the EU boats will be inside the exclusion zone taking what they want going by earlier reports and your catch will just rot in a lorry park, big win. Oh you have a rock.

[cromwell]

The fishermen and associated businesses care and that where I live is a significant number, enough to get the local Tory MP out at the next general election.

Well look forward to the next election and the result,post bookmarked