Reason To Take Vaccine

[Scott777]

Has anyone ever contracted Bells Palsy from the Covid vaccine...?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fact-check-did-a-tennessee-nurse-develop-bells-palsy-after-getting-the-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-BB1cnJ6Z

That's not easy to answer, because how would you prove causation?  However, there is this: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/15/fda-staff-recommends-watching-for-bells-palsy-in-moderna-and-pfizer-vaccine-recipients.html

[Scott777]

So what would be really useful to the argument would be if you could arrange an X-ray.

For me?

[papasmurf]

There's no evidence it's linked to the vaccine.

Precisely.  There will a few side effects with any vaccine. ( In the case of Smallpox eradication, there were some  bad effects, to the point my then GP and my mother had  a long conversation and I did not have the small pox vaccine because my GP was of the opinion that I spent so much time around dairy cows I would have caught cowpox which gives immunity to smallpox.) This was over 60 years ago.

[patman post]

From FullFact:-

https://fullfact.org/online/bells-palsy-vaccine-trial/

Some on the Pfizer vaccine trials did get Bell's palsy, but not more than we'd expect by chance

The actual response to the claim:—

Four volunteers developed Bell's palsy after receiving Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine.

Was:—

This is true, but that's about how many people in a group the size of the trial would be expected to develop it in that period of time. There's no evidence it's linked to the vaccine.

[patman post]

Are you aware of damage caused my respirators?

Which is why they were/are regarded a last resort and were used more initially earlier last year before experience and the results of trials of  new treatments were gained...

[papasmurf]

Has anyone ever contracted Bells Palsy from the Covid vaccine...?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fact-check-did-a-tennessee-nurse-develop-bells-palsy-after-getting-the-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-BB1cnJ6Z

From FullFact:-

https://fullfact.org/online/bells-palsy-vaccine-trial/

Some on the Pfizer vaccine trials did get Bell's palsy, but not more than we'd expect by chance

[T00ts]

But in combination, (I have my own blood pressure monitor,) and over time problems can show that you may not be aware of than mean a visit to a GP is needed.

LOL I don't think we need to get into an 'I have more medical equipment than you' debate.  Trust me I am well equipped, more than that in normal times the GP plus specialists take over my life quite enough.

[patman post]

Oh well, each to his own.  You have the choice to take the risk of getting the Bell's Palsy or viral interference that might result, and you will probably need to take it many times before you build up immunity (or not building it at all)

Has anyone ever contracted Bells Palsy from the Covid vaccine...?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fact-check-did-a-tennessee-nurse-develop-bells-palsy-after-getting-the-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-BB1cnJ6Z

[Forum admin]

Moderator Notice

This is about the vaccine, not peak flow machines. I am about to delete all the off topic posts and all the posts which attack the poster, rather than debate the issue.

[T00ts]

If you mean Covid, yes, I believe I mentioned many months ago that I am 99% sure I had it in March.  But I'm not judging by anecdotal evidence, just the actual statistics.

So what would be really useful to the argument would be if you could arrange an X-ray.

[Scott777]

No I am not.

You're being very evasive.  So which kind of testing then?

[Scott777]

I am taking notice of the scientists engaged in the continuous research on the subject.
I would also point out due to DNA ancestry and as yet unknown reasons a few people are very disease resistant, in some cases traceable back to their ancestors surviving the Black Death.
Some people are very difficult to kill.

Which scientists engaged in the continuous research on the subject?  The 'official ones' virtually ignored T-cell immunity.

[Scott777]

You'll correct me if I'm wrong but don't people vary in the T-cell count? Hence the degree of immunity can vary?

Well, certainly not everyone has T-cell immunity that would protect them from it.  There are genetic factors.  However, I said many months ago that there was significant evidence of widespread T-cell immunity, and the lateral flow tests in Liverpool suggest that the epidemic was over there, even while the PCR tests said it was spiking.  As I say, there is no evidence there is currently an epidemic in the UK.  It peaked around April, and was gone by June.

[Scott777]

That is happening all over the World not just Britain.

Probably.  What does that mean?  The WHO advise much of the world, and they declared the pandemic, and probably advise on emergency status.

[papasmurf]

What does cark mean?

Die.