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Started by Scott777, January 10, 2021, 05:24:45 PM

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Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 on May 05, 2021, 09:45:37 PM
A number of flaws in this comment.
1. The Covid vaccine (Astrazeneca) could not save my life, given that I had Covid last year and was fine.
2.  The anaesthetics have been used for years, and the side effects are known, whilst they are not known for any injected Covid treatment (because you cannot know until the trials are complete).
3. If I want to stop tooth pain, I have no choice but to take the anaesthetic or have teeth removed.
Butt Kick

As has already been explained 'trials' are never complete . All drug companies are winging it to some extent .

Just man up and take the needle . If you need some moral support we are here for you  ;)

Scott777

Quote from: Streetwalker on May 05, 2021, 07:56:08 PM
So your quiet happy to take Lidocaine which has a side effects list  as long as your arm to stop dentist pain but not take a vaccine that may save your life ?     Butt Kick
A number of flaws in this comment.
1. The Covid vaccine (Astrazeneca) could not save my life, given that I had Covid last year and was fine.
2.  The anaesthetics have been used for years, and the side effects are known, whilst they are not known for any injected Covid treatment (because you cannot know until the trials are complete).
3. If I want to stop tooth pain, I have no choice but to take the anaesthetic or have teeth removed.
Butt Kick
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 on May 05, 2021, 06:56:49 PM
Actually I have always enjoyed the challenge at the dentist, even when they really hurt.  One injection was agonising and left me with an abscess, but it never stopped me from going, like some snowflakes.  So you are quite wrong.  P.S. the Pfizer injection is not a vaccine, it's an experimental gene therapy, so try not to get too brainwashed by crap like your article, which I can immediately see is propaganda.  The hypocrisy is that everyone is nervous about the new flu, without justification.

So your quiet happy to take Lidocaine which has a side effects list  as long as your arm to stop dentist pain but not take a vaccine that may save your life ?     Butt Kick

Scott777

Quote from: Streetwalker on May 05, 2021, 05:17:58 PM
Scott we get the message , your scared of needles .

You should seek help for your  fears , come  on chap you can do it! 

https://healthtalk.unchealthcare.org/nervous-about-covid-19-vaccination-read-this/ 
Actually I have always enjoyed the challenge at the dentist, even when they really hurt.  One injection was agonising and left me with an abscess, but it never stopped me from going, like some snowflakes.  So you are quite wrong.  P.S. the Pfizer injection is not a vaccine, it's an experimental gene therapy, so try not to get too brainwashed by crap like your article, which I can immediately see is propaganda.  The hypocrisy is that everyone is nervous about the new flu, without justification.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 on May 05, 2021, 03:35:27 PM
Oddly enough, the flu was totally curbed 🤣 while Covid has been so serious it required billions of quid to stop it (and that's what you call curbed).  🤣  Can you see the absurdity of that?  It's as if the fairies have magicked flu away.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.  Or just maybe all the flu has been called Covid.

Scott we get the message , your scared of needles .

You should seek help for your  fears , come  on chap you can do it! 

https://healthtalk.unchealthcare.org/nervous-about-covid-19-vaccination-read-this/ 

Scott777

Quote from: patman post on May 04, 2021, 05:03:22 PM
Despite the various allegations of State Control, Big Pharma money-making, and fear mongering, information from official medical sources shows that hand washing, mask wearing, social distancing and vaccination work.

Hand washing, mask wearing, social distancing brought in to curb Covid have also curbed flu. Coupled with a higher than normal uptake of flu vaccination, not a single case of influenza has been detected by public health officials in England for the past seven weeks. Infection rates are currently at historic lows.

Separate data gathered by the Royal College of General Practitioners' (RCGP) research and surveillance centre has shown that the rate of influenza-like symptoms stood at 0.5-1.3 per 100,000 persons for December — well below the five-year average for this time of year.

With widespread social distancing and mask-wearing measures in place throughout the UK, the usual routes of transmission for influenza have been blocked...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/flu-cases-covid-england-phe-latest-b1805124.html
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/weekly-national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-published#history
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/no-flu-cases-detected-in-england-this-year-to-date/


Oddly enough, the flu was totally curbed 🤣 while Covid has been so serious it required billions of quid to stop it (and that's what you call curbed).  🤣  Can you see the absurdity of that?  It's as if the fairies have magicked flu away.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.  Or just maybe all the flu has been called Covid.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

patman post

 Despite the various allegations of State Control, Big Pharma money-making, and fear mongering, information from official medical sources shows that hand washing, mask wearing, social distancing and vaccination work.

Hand washing, mask wearing, social distancing brought in to curb Covid have also curbed flu. Coupled with a higher than normal uptake of flu vaccination, not a single case of influenza has been detected by public health officials in England for the past seven weeks. Infection rates are currently at historic lows.

Separate data gathered by the Royal College of General Practitioners' (RCGP) research and surveillance centre has shown that the rate of influenza-like symptoms stood at 0.5-1.3 per 100,000 persons for December — well below the five-year average for this time of year.

With widespread social distancing and mask-wearing measures in place throughout the UK, the usual routes of transmission for influenza have been blocked...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/flu-cases-covid-england-phe-latest-b1805124.html
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/weekly-national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-published#history
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/no-flu-cases-detected-in-england-this-year-to-date/

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Sheepy

This can be easily sorted out,
India population as of 2020, 1,380,004,385 I am sure Barry will work it out for you.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

patman post

Quote from: Barry on May 04, 2021, 03:20:14 PM
Sorry, Pat, can you speak up a bit, are you saying the report is false? If so I apologise.

Although, Italy has a rate double that of India, at the moment, but whisper that, won't you?
Citing Daily Expose as a credible source seems bizarre. Its report on the deaths of the two teenagers from cardiac arrest, only couples their deaths to being vaccinated. It doesn't even question whether similar deaths are experienced in more normal times.

On the Italy-India (whatever) figures — I'm not alone in suspecting India's figures are being under reported:

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-05-03/india-covid-deaths-infections-vastly-undercounted
https://news.sky.com/story/india-crematoriums-underreporting-bodies-as-suspicion-grows-over-true-number-of-coronavirus-deaths-12288828
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/24/indias-covid-death-toll-hides-stark-truth-for-the-poor-its-even-worse

If the India Covid-19 pandemic story is a hoax, there must be billions being paid to the BCCI, IPL and team owners to call the competition off. And other countries (including Pakistan) are going to feel extremely foolish for committing and sending the amounts of medical supplies to India...
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Scott777

Quote from: patman post on May 04, 2021, 01:47:31 PM
Is this the same Daily Expose that reported: what you are seeing on your TV screen and reading in a newspaper on the alleged situation regarding Covid-19 in India is nothing more than propaganda and lies which are being used to maintain the level of fear that they have managed to invoke in the majority of people in the United Kingdom since March 2020. You are being deceived, and we can prove it...
Actually, it really is the end of the world in India, and Saddam really did have WMDs (he hid them in his back pocket), and we face mass extinction by 2030 because we are sinking and stuff.  😉
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Barry

Quote from: patman post on May 04, 2021, 01:47:31 PM
Is this the same Daily Expose that reported: what you are seeing on your TV screen and reading in a newspaper on the alleged situation regarding Covid-19 in India is nothing more than propaganda and lies which are being used to maintain the level of fear that they have managed to invoke in the majority of people in the United Kingdom since March 2020. You are being deceived, and we can prove it...
Sorry, Pat, can you speak up a bit, are you saying the report is false? If so I apologise.

Although, Italy has a rate double that of India, at the moment, but whisper that, won't you?
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patman post

Quote from: Barry on May 04, 2021, 10:35:27 AM
Have ze vaccine and you vill be free:
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-germany-presses-ahead-with-freedoms-for-vaccinated-people/a-57414000

Alternatively, you could be a dead teenager:
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/04/26/two-teenage-girls-suffer-cardiac-arrest-and-sadly-die-within-days-of-having-mrna-covid-vaccine/
Is this the same Daily Expose that reported: what you are seeing on your TV screen and reading in a newspaper on the alleged situation regarding Covid-19 in India is nothing more than propaganda and lies which are being used to maintain the level of fear that they have managed to invoke in the majority of people in the United Kingdom since March 2020. You are being deceived, and we can prove it...
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Scott777

Quote from: cromwell on April 28, 2021, 10:13:06 PM
Right so all that news has been orchestrated,there is no shortage of oxygen and the people who report the true figures of deaths aren't being reported have made it all up.
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That's called a strawman argument.  It's not what I said.  But let's assume a lot of corporate media are exaggerating the situation, that does not imply it's orchestrated.  It's normal for media to exaggerate things, because it sells.  If there were no 'pandemic', they would not have a constant flow of headlines.  It's sometimes known as fear porn, just like climate change.  They lie, and that has been proven.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

cromwell

Right so all that news has been orchestrated,there is no shortage of oxygen and the people who report the true figures of deaths aren't being reported have made it all up.
::)
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