Reason To Take Vaccine

[Barry]

You got proof of that cause I highly doubt that?

OK, doubting Thomas.

The Spectator Covid tracker used to provide a graph which has gradually shown that 100% of cases in the UK are now Delta, but they don't have it on the page any more.
https://data.spectator.co.uk/

But Sky News have reported the same.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-delta-is-making-other-coronavirus-variants-extinct-but-what-does-it-mean-for-the-uk-12431343

[Nick]

The original variant is extinct in the UK.

You got proof of that cause I highly doubt that?

[Barry]

On a lighter note

[Barry]

Roll up for your booster!
Remember it has not been tailored to the Delta variant spike. It could have been, but then that would encourage another mutation, wouldn't it?
The original variant is extinct in the UK.

[Scott777]

We seem to have reached a stage where the media now spend all their waking hours looking for people who have caught covid who haven't been vaccinated, yet don't mention all those who have had the vaccine and still caught covid, except in passing they need yet another booster. Yet we have the likes of Boris and Charlie who caught it survived without a vaccine and later went on to have the vaccine anyway. While nobody makes much of a big deal about all those who have suffered some of the many side effects including death by vaccine. Very strange.

It is most peculiar, almost as if they are all liars and deceivers.  Hmmm.

[Scott777]

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I may be mistaken, but I honestly don't think you can be for real...

I'll take that as a no.  So you can't verify any of your claims.  Never mind.  🤣

[Sheepy]

Now these vaccines have been in use for 8-9 months without a single problem. (Ahem!)
Wouldn't it be a good time to remove the legal indemnity protecting the manufacturers from being sued??

It would surely increase confidence in the vaccines and increase uptake.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/26/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-died-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-complications-coroner-finds

We seem to have reached a stage where the media now spend all their waking hours looking for people who have caught covid who haven't been vaccinated, yet don't mention all those who have had the vaccine and still caught covid, except in passing they need yet another booster. Yet we have the likes of Boris and Charlie who caught it survived without a vaccine and later went on to have the vaccine anyway. While nobody makes much of a big deal about all those who have suffered some of the many side effects including death by vaccine. Very strange.

[Barry]

Now these vaccines have been in use for 8-9 months without a single problem. (Ahem!)
Wouldn't it be a good time to remove the legal indemnity protecting the manufacturers from being sued??

It would surely increase confidence in the vaccines and increase uptake.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/26/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-died-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-complications-coroner-finds

[patman post]

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I may be mistaken, but I honestly don't think you can be for real...

[Scott777]

 
So they can sue, whether for slander or libel is up to them. Here's some more, and all the points are verifiable:

Sucharit Bhakdi, a retired Thai-German microbiologist has became known in retirement for spreading conspiracy theories and anti-semitic polemic. In 2020 and 2021 Bhakdi became a prominent source of misinformation about the Coivid-19 pandemic, claiming that it was "fake" and that Covid vaccines were going to decimate the world's population. 

Following the publicity accorded to his statements and publications regarding Covid-19 during 2020, The Gesellschaft zur wissenschaftlichen Untersuchung von Parawissenschaften (Society for the Scientific Investigation of Pseudosciences) awarded him the 2020  "Das Goldene Brett vorm Kopf" (The Golden Blockhead) as the most astonishing pseudo-scientific nuisance of the year. 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/30/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-dont-cause-death-wont-depopulate-planet/7411271002/ 

https://www.br.de/nachrichten/wissen/bhakdis-brief-an-die-kanzlerin-was-ist-dran-an-seinen-fragen,RutYDhd 

https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/corona-verschwoerungstheorien-und-die-akteure-dahinter-bill-gates-impfzwang-und-co-a-2e9a0e78-4375-4dbd-815f-54571750d32d 

https://www.kleinezeitung.at/international/corona/5911991/Das-Goldene-Brett-vorm-Kopf_FehlalarmArzt-Sucharit-Bhakdi-mit 

Covid-19 sceptic and anti-vaccination campaigner Dolores Cahill is no longer listed on the University College Dublin's online staff directory, where she has worked as a professor in the university's school of medicine. She has consistently spread misinformation about Covid-19, including the myth that children wearing masks would have a lower IQ... 

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/anti-vaccine-campaigner-dolores-cahill-no-longer-listed-on-ucd-staff-directory-1.4678033

How do you know your 'points' are verifiable.  Did you verify them?  If you did, explain how.  In order to verify that the pandemic is real, you will need to verify the existence of the virus (isolated and purified directly from an infected person), then verify that the PCR test is accurate (already admitted to be false by Dominic Raab, Boris, and even the WHO).  If you can't verify that, then it's impossible to verify that there has been a Covid pandemic, even though it may be assumed that there was last year, based purely on total deaths and symptoms.

[patman post]

Your hypocrisy is that you are not asking for a driving ban, despite the fact that it would increase safety, which you just claimed you are all for.

Please provide evidence that Cahill is a conspiracy theorist (you probably don't know the meaning of the words), or anti-semitic (ironically she is supported by Tommy Robinson and his fans, who is apparently a Zionist, so you really are just talking garbage).  You know there are laws against slander?  (But you forgot to slander Prof Bhakdi).

So they can sue, whether for slander or libel is up to them. Here's some more, and all the points are verifiable:

Sucharit Bhakdi, a retired Thai-German microbiologist has became known in retirement for spreading conspiracy theories and anti-semitic polemic. In 2020 and 2021 Bhakdi became a prominent source of misinformation about the Coivid-19 pandemic, claiming that it was "fake" and that Covid vaccines were going to decimate the world's population. 

Following the publicity accorded to his statements and publications regarding Covid-19 during 2020, The Gesellschaft zur wissenschaftlichen Untersuchung von Parawissenschaften (Society for the Scientific Investigation of Pseudosciences) awarded him the 2020  "Das Goldene Brett vorm Kopf" (The Golden Blockhead) as the most astonishing pseudo-scientific nuisance of the year. 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/30/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-dont-cause-death-wont-depopulate-planet/7411271002/ 

https://www.br.de/nachrichten/wissen/bhakdis-brief-an-die-kanzlerin-was-ist-dran-an-seinen-fragen,RutYDhd 

https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/corona-verschwoerungstheorien-und-die-akteure-dahinter-bill-gates-impfzwang-und-co-a-2e9a0e78-4375-4dbd-815f-54571750d32d 

https://www.kleinezeitung.at/international/corona/5911991/Das-Goldene-Brett-vorm-Kopf_FehlalarmArzt-Sucharit-Bhakdi-mit 

Covid-19 sceptic and anti-vaccination campaigner Dolores Cahill is no longer listed on the University College Dublin's online staff directory, where she has worked as a professor in the university's school of medicine. She has consistently spread misinformation about Covid-19, including the myth that children wearing masks would have a lower IQ... 

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/anti-vaccine-campaigner-dolores-cahill-no-longer-listed-on-ucd-staff-directory-1.4678033

[Sheepy]

Your hypocrisy is that you are not asking for a driving ban, despite the fact that it would increase safety, which you just claimed you are all for.

Please provide evidence that Cahill is a conspiracy theorist (you probably don't know the meaning of the words), or anti-semitic (ironically she is supported by Tommy Robinson and his fans, who is apparently a Zionist, so you really are just talking garbage).  You know there are laws against slander?  (But you forgot to slander Prof Bhakdi).

The only reason we have reached this point, is because some people are willing to stand out and say no, enough is enough, like Barry's man in the street who is willing to speak out. Tyranny can take many forms and politics is always particularly susceptible.

[Scott777]

What hypocrisy? I'm all for recommendations and rules that increase safety for participants and others during driving, riding or any other activity. I'm also an advocate of the smoking ban — I wish it was extended to pub doorways and gardens and bus stops.

I've carried sanitiser and equipment wipes for years while working on keyboards and in shared office spaces. And for years I've worn masks countries where it is expected during flu seasons — even if I then thought it extreme. I now wear a mask in the UK since it's been advised we do so, and I now think it's useful.

My overriding reaction to the above is to wonder if your understanding of the evidence is any better than your understanding of my post. And claiming discredited Prof Dolores Cahill, and known conspiracy theorist and anti-semite, Prof Sucharit Bhakdi, as credible sources just makes you appear (to those who are aware of them) as either a gullible idiot or an intentional myth and false information spreader...

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/strange-case-dr-cahill-and-ms-hyde

Your hypocrisy is that you are not asking for a driving ban, despite the fact that it would increase safety, which you just claimed you are all for.

Please provide evidence that Cahill is a conspiracy theorist (you probably don't know the meaning of the words), or anti-semitic (ironically she is supported by Tommy Robinson and his fans, who is apparently a Zionist, so you really are just talking garbage).  You know there are laws against slander?  (But you forgot to slander Prof Bhakdi).

[patman post]

 

That's OK as far as it goes (as with any personal freedom). But if individual choices and actions negatively impact others, I reckon they should be condemned, or at least discouraged. 

There's always naysayers whether it's against crash helmets, seat belts, smoking, etc. It's just a shame others continue to suffer life-changing harm or lose their lives because of such people...

The hypocrisy shines through.  Or are you a naysayer who thinks driving will never cause life-changing harm, or smoking in public?  Where was your mask during flu pandemics, or were you one of the spreaders?  Are you 'such people'?

What hypocrisy? I'm all for recommendations and rules that increase safety for participants and others during driving, riding or any other activity. I'm also an advocate of the smoking ban — I wish it was extended to pub doorways and gardens and bus stops.

I've carried sanitiser and equipment wipes for years while working on keyboards and in shared office spaces. And for years I've worn masks countries where it is expected during flu seasons — even if I then thought it extreme. I now wear a mask in the UK since it's been advised we do so, and I now think it's useful.

Well, I know people can talk rubbish as well as truth, and i'm sure some of it is deliberate to discredit the truth.  My own decision is based on a lot of evidence and observations, much of it I've posted on this forum, including clinical trials.  I've seen interviews with experts such as Prof Dolores Cahill, Prof Sucharit Bhakdi, and i've posted research from the US military in viral interference.

My overriding reaction to the above is to wonder if your understanding of the evidence is any better than your understanding of my post. And claiming discredited Prof Dolores Cahill, and known conspiracy theorist and anti-semite, Prof Sucharit Bhakdi, as credible sources just makes you appear (to those who are aware of them) as either a gullible idiot or an intentional myth and false information spreader...

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/strange-case-dr-cahill-and-ms-hyde

[johnofgwent]

Well the plan is to live as long as possible and become a cantakeousity 

If that word means cantakerous old git then where do I sign to join up while I still remember my signature ...