The EU triggered article 16 or didn't discussion

Started by GerryT, February 03, 2021, 09:24:14 PM

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johnofgwent

Quote from: GerryT on February 03, 2021, 09:24:14 PM

Now compare that to the UK which restricts over 200 medicines from being exported or hoarded if those medicines are needed in the UK


Except those restrictions are in general an outcome insisted upon by the holder of the patent, and a further part of the "problem" is a demand made by the EU back when it was just an EEC that pharmaceutical manufacturers seeking a licence to manufacture in the UK had to declare whether the intended market were the UK or not, because of EEC and other countries setting conditions on what could me added as an inactive filler, colouring agent etc ...
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Borchester

Quote from: GerryT on February 04, 2021, 10:24:32 AM
All the UK rags are, but the EU didn't trigger Art16. They apologised for the memo that said Art16 was being considered as a remedy to the failings of AZ to meet their contract agreement. Just like Johnson should now apologise for suggesting Art16 and why he should apologise for the IMB and why he should apologise to the people of NI saying their would be no sea border... (this list is very long)

It isn't our fault Gerry. We are just following the Irish Times...

  https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/relations-between-dublin-and-brussels-plummet-to-freezing-over-article-16-fiasco-1.4475963?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Frelations-between-dublin-and-brussels-plummet-to-freezing-over-article-16-fiasco-1.4475963
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Borchester

Quote from: GerryT on February 04, 2021, 10:19:54 AM
What did the EU deny ?
I have no idea who said that the Eu were considering Art16, do you ? as far as I know no senior official made an announcement ?
somehow this was suggested and very quickly senior figures in the EU said Art16 would not be triggered.
Your happy in the land of liars.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1391084/EU-vaccine-row-Why-did-European-Commission-revoke-Article-16-NI-protocol-EVG
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GerryT

Quote from: Nick on February 03, 2021, 11:31:35 PM
They didn't do anything but apologised like crazy for doing nowt.
All the papers reporting the EU revoked article 16 are wrong then @GerryT ?
All the UK rags are, but the EU didn't trigger Art16. They apologised for the memo that said Art16 was being considered as a remedy to the failings of AZ to meet their contract agreement. Just like Johnson should now apologise for suggesting Art16 and why he should apologise for the IMB and why he should apologise to the people of NI saying their would be no sea border... (this list is very long)

GerryT

Quote from: Barry on February 03, 2021, 10:49:59 PM
What sort of talk is that?
Someone, God knows who?
Is that how the EU operates, on a basis of anonymisation and denial? Thank the Lord we are out.
What did the EU deny ?
I have no idea who said that the Eu were considering Art16, do you ? as far as I know no senior official made an announcement ?
somehow this was suggested and very quickly senior figures in the EU said Art16 would not be triggered.
Your happy in the land of liars.

cromwell

Quote from: Nick on February 03, 2021, 11:31:35 PM
They didn't do anything but apologised like crazy for doing nowt.
All the papers reporting the EU revoked article 16 are wrong then @GerryT ?
Of course they are,the eu like the pope is infallible ::) ;)
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Nick

Quote from: Barry on February 03, 2021, 10:49:59 PM
What sort of talk is that?
Someone, God knows who?
Is that how the EU operates, on a basis of anonymisation and denial? Thank the Lord we are out.

They didn't do anything but apologised like crazy for doing nowt.
All the papers reporting the EU revoked article 16 are wrong then @GerryT ?
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Barry

Quote from: GerryT on February 03, 2021, 09:24:14 PM
The EU didn't place any ban on AZ vaccine shipment. someone (god knows who) and the suggestion was withdrawn and an apology was issued.


What sort of talk is that?
Someone, God knows who?
Is that how the EU operates, on a basis of anonymisation and denial? Thank the Lord we are out.
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cromwell

Quote from: GerryT on February 03, 2021, 10:08:48 PM
nope they didn't, quite the opposite.
Plenty of apologies within IRL for those events, but what about the UKs blocking of over 200 medicines including those for covid patients from been exported. That practice still goes on, is that ok ?  Or Johnson threatening art16, is that ok. The eu madecs mistake and apologised but Johnson, he thinks its a great idea.
Yes gerry they did but you wouldn't want to admit that now would you?
Any ways as Nick says your blind loyalty and defence is pathetic,meanwhile here we're quite happy and recent events only confirm we were right to leave and it's made some remainers feel the same.

How did you say your vaccination program is going?
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GerryT

Quote from: cromwell on February 03, 2021, 09:33:55 PM
Wow Gerry you surfaced,and off you go haven't you some things to apologise for,laundries,mother and baby homes....and what's the latest....oh yeah asylum seekers.

Still we are the eu and the eu is us right? everyones seen the eu for what they are,still Gerry you come here slagging off the brits,well English really.

Didn't the eu eu say eff eu Gerry? :) :) :)
nope they didn't, quite the opposite.
Plenty of apologies within IRL for those events, but what about the UKs blocking of over 200 medicines including those for covid patients from been exported. That practice still goes on, is that ok ?  Or Johnson threatening art16, is that ok. The eu madecs mistake and apologised but Johnson, he thinks its a great idea.

Nick

Quote from: GerryT on February 03, 2021, 09:24:14 PM
The EU didn't place any ban on AZ vaccine shipment. someone (god knows who) and the suggestion was withdrawn and an apology was issued.

Now compare that to the UK which restricts over 200 medicines from being exported or hoarded if those medicines are needed in the UK, Hypocrisy at it's highest and a great example of true British exceptionalism. Some of these drugs would be for patiens being treated for Covid19. I suppose its ok for the UK to get upset at the thought of AZ not been able to ship product to the UK, which never materialised (yet) but when the shoes on the other foot its a great idea.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/parallel-export-and-hoarding-of-restricted-medicines
https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/115637/uk-bans-parallel-exporting-of-crucial-medicines-to-help-covid-19-patients/

What are you talking about? AZ production was in full flow in the UK, it was in the EU where the problem was and it the EU that revoked article 16. They drove a truck through your beloved peace process and you come out with some pathetic attempt at justifying it. Pathetic!
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: GerryT on February 03, 2021, 09:24:14 PM
The EU didn't place any ban on AZ vaccine shipment. someone (god knows who) and the suggestion was withdrawn and an apology was issued.

Now compare that to the UK which restricts over 200 medicines from being exported or hoarded if those medicines are needed in the UK, Hypocrisy at it's highest and a great example of true British exceptionalism. Some of these drugs would be for patiens being treated for Covid19. I suppose its ok for the UK to get upset at the thought of AZ not been able to ship product to the UK, which never materialised (yet) but when the shoes on the other foot its a great idea.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/parallel-export-and-hoarding-of-restricted-medicines
https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/115637/uk-bans-parallel-exporting-of-crucial-medicines-to-help-covid-19-patients/
Wow Gerry you surfaced,and off you go haven't you some things to apologise for,laundries,mother and baby homes....and what's the latest....oh yeah asylum seekers.

Still we are the eu and the eu is us right? everyones seen the eu for what they are,still Gerry you come here slagging off the brits,well English really.

Didn't the eu eu say eff eu Gerry? :) :) :)
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

GerryT

Quote from: cromwell on January 31, 2021, 10:31:56 AM
Is there a vaccine for illogical remainers,yes there probably is.........but Brussels slapped an export ban on it :P :P

The EU didn't place any ban on AZ vaccine shipment. someone (god knows who) and the suggestion was withdrawn and an apology was issued.

Now compare that to the UK which restricts over 200 medicines from being exported or hoarded if those medicines are needed in the UK, Hypocrisy at it's highest and a great example of true British exceptionalism. Some of these drugs would be for patiens being treated for Covid19. I suppose its ok for the UK to get upset at the thought of AZ not been able to ship product to the UK, which never materialised (yet) but when the shoes on the other foot its a great idea.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/parallel-export-and-hoarding-of-restricted-medicines
https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/115637/uk-bans-parallel-exporting-of-crucial-medicines-to-help-covid-19-patients/