The New Cold War with China

Started by Sampanviking, February 09, 2021, 12:30:37 PM

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Sampanviking

Quote from: Sheepy on July 20, 2021, 08:22:45 PM
Well very interesting I am sure SPV but it seems both sides rely on pure speculation without ever offering any real evidence.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/japan-govt-says-companies-targeted-by-china-backed-cyber-hacking-group/ar-AAMl4MS?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-formally-accuses-china-of-hacking-microsoft/ar-AAMkL9E?ocid=msedgntp

Yes a mysterious and wholly unsubstantiated story that broke the very next day after the very real and very substantiated story about the Pegasus spyware hacking story was broken, involving an Israeli firm and Pro Western Governments, targeting Journalists, Human Rights Activists and Opposition Politicians.
So clearly no attempt at a distraction here.....

Sheepy

Quote from: Sampanviking on July 15, 2021, 12:28:31 AM
Shame about the quality of the audio, but that I guess is a risk you take when you livestream.

More very effective debunking of the BBC hit piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEcdoFQenZM
Well very interesting I am sure SPV but it seems both sides rely on pure speculation without ever offering any real evidence.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/japan-govt-says-companies-targeted-by-china-backed-cyber-hacking-group/ar-AAMl4MS?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-formally-accuses-china-of-hacking-microsoft/ar-AAMkL9E?ocid=msedgntp
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Sampanviking

Shame about the quality of the audio, but that I guess is a risk you take when you livestream.

More very effective debunking of the BBC hit piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEcdoFQenZM

Sampanviking

Two interesting videos pushing back on a recent BBC Hit piece targeting China resident Vloggers

The first is a very detailed, almost line by line debunking from a guy in Thailand, the second is from Daniel Dumbrill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHICKSqgMo4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yDz1FwNp0

Sampanviking

Back to Xinjiang and this is a graphic that shows that countries that signed a letter condemning China for the treatment of the Uighurs and another of countries that support China on Human Rights

https://i.ibb.co/25kV4N9/UN-voting-list-picture.jpg

https://ibb.co/Ws28Jth

The glaring fact is that not one Islamic country signed the letter condemning China, most noticeably none of the Muslim Turkic countries that lie on or close to China;s borders. Quite a few however do offer China its support.
In addition I also post an essay from a Islamic essayist on the subject
https://ghazanfarsultan.medium.com/a-muslims-perspective-on-the-uyghur-narrative-6da0dfb1391e

Who was that said that "if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth".

Sampanviking

The big news of the last 24 hours has been in the Meng Wanzhou Extradition hearing in Canada

A lot of people have been talking about this, but I like the Cyrus Janssen video as it is short and very concise.
What has come out is that the foundations of the case against Ms Wanzhou is that she was undertaking secret transactions through HSBC in contravention of US Sanctions.
The point has always been clear that a Chinese Company doing business based in Hong Kong with a company doing business in Iran is well outside of US Jurisdiction.
New evidence shows that HSBC itself routed the payments through New York, thus it brought the transactions into the US Jurisdiction in the the most flimsy of manners.
Further it confirmed what everybody already knew, that no Junior bank officials were dealing with the Huawei account, but only the most senior bank executives, which is exactly what you would expect when dealing with one of the banks top twenty clients, especially in the Far East, where such peer to peer relationships are expected. It further showed that these very senior executives were fully aware of the business relationship in question

The saddest part is that the UK Courts blocked the release of the HSBC documents and that it took an order from the Hong Kong courts to force the bank to hand the documents over and show the blatantly dishonest premise for the detention of Meng Wenzhou. Not exactly the textbook story of Freedom loving democracy, over authoritarian oppression is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Bv31B41t8 

Sampanviking

So you still haven't bothered to read the article.
Had you done you would have learned that the sums frozen were tiny in newspaper terms and that plenty of funds remained available to it.
More it seems it was the prospect of the slush spigot being turned off and the likelihood of board members being faced with very difficult questions regarding source, that sent the rats scurrying for the nearest holes.

Still, plenty of similarities with the News of the World as well as differences. Computers and records seized, senior Executives arrested and jailed.....
Sad I was not there on the day for the Rotten Apple, as; like some of my family members, I would have tried to buy one of the final edition to keep as a trophy.

patman post

State operatives confiscating dozens of Apple Daily's computers during several police raids, freezing its bank accounts so it could pay employees or pay its bills, and arresting employees would seem to have forced the newspaper's closure...   
   A new National Security Law has deepened already serious concerns about diminishing press freedom and editorial independence in Hong Kong. This follows a challenging time for the news media in reporting prolonged citizen protests amid a major health pandemic. 
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2021-06/Digital_News_Report_2021_FINAL.pdf
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Sampanviking

Well Pat had you bothered to read the article, it would have illustrated that it was not significantly popular and that the decision to close was made by the company itself.
Has the West ever closed a newspaper? Don't know, but the UK like most Western Countries have "Fit and Proper Person" Laws/Regulations to force somebody "unsuitable" to surrender their holdings.
By the same token though, I cant think of any Western Paper that was Slush Funded via the Intelligence Services of a Hostile Foreign State.

patman post

Whatever the Apple News story, I don't recall any popular newspaper being closed by the authorities in the West. True the News of the World went. But that was a PR thing, and in reality, it only changed name...
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Sampanviking

Now this is interesting, Professional Journo, pulls the Apple Daily story apart and clearly illustrates the bullshine put out by MSM

https://www.fridayeveryday.com/opinion-peter-fredenburg/10100/The-untold-story-of-Apple-Daily

patman post

^^^ 
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Sampanviking

Professional analysis of the joint statement issued by Russia/China after the Putin Xi virtual summit on 1st July.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnNXHlOEgVY

Sampanviking

Not much coverage of this in the west and certainly ignored by the BBC.
Hong Kong Policeman stabbed in terrorist attack on busy Causeway main street on Hong Kong Island on July 1st.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3139555/man-who-stabbed-hong-kong-police-officer-left-multiple

Sampanviking

Cyrus Jansen is an old China hand who is anything but a zealot.
This balanced discussion on real freedoms and protest in China, is well worth taking the time to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqcScSCTgbM