Should zero Covid be the objective?

[Sheepy]

Are you denying that thousands have died of covid and believe the entire medical and scientific community are selling us a lie for some nefarious purpose?

If so, don't forget your tinfoil hat.

Stop making up things I haven't said or done, or I might agree with grumzed that people only see and hear what they want, of course I know why you cannot deal with the figures.

[srb7677]

Maybe, are you explaining the figures as listed or not?

Are you denying that thousands have died of covid and believe the entire medical and scientific community are selling us a lie for some nefarious purpose?

If so, don't forget your tinfoil hat.

[Sheepy]

Hahaha, that made me laugh out loud.

Clearly you are in need of the tin foil hat.

Maybe, are you explaining the figures as listed or not?

[srb7677]

That's good.  Can you share them out between everyone who wears a cloth mask to protect them from tiny invisible weapons of mass destruction?  😁

Hahaha, that made me laugh out loud.

Clearly you are in need of the tin foil hat.

[Scott777]

Next time I have time to post much here I'll bring some tin foil hats along for the usual suspects.

That's good.  Can you share them out between everyone who wears a cloth mask to protect them from tiny invisible weapons of mass destruction?  😁

[srb7677]

Next time I have time to post much here I'll bring some tin foil hats along for the usual suspects.

[Scott777]

Anyway I thought as everyone was driven off on a Conspiracy Tangent, maybe you would like to explain.

Sorry, I thought it was clear.  Crude mortality rate per capita was more in 2003 than in 2020.  Age-standardised mortality rate per capita was more in 2008 than 2020.  i.e. it was proportionately worse in those years.

[Sheepy]

That's the thing about statistics. People choose to compare 2020 figures with a low influenza year and hey presto, thousands of "excess deaths".
Compare it with 2003 and there are none. You should be a magician Sheepy, all those 120,000 deaths gone in a puff of smoke.

I don't know about that, but I do also know about year-on-year population growth.

[Barry]

Anyway I thought as everyone was driven off on a Conspiracy Tangent, maybe you would like to explain.

That's the thing about statistics. People choose to compare 2020 figures with a low influenza year and hey presto, thousands of "excess deaths".
Compare it with 2003 and there are none. You should be a magician Sheepy, all those 120,000 deaths gone in a puff of smoke.

[Sheepy]

Just to clear up the hocus pocus about 2020 being a bad year, here are the facts.

Crude mortality rate (per 100,000): 2020 = 1,016.20 ; 2003 = 1,019.90.

Age-standardised mortality rate (per 100,000): 2020 = 1,043.50.  2008 = 1,091.90.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020

Anyway I thought as everyone was driven off on a Conspiracy Tangent, maybe you would like to explain.

[Sheepy]

Yep , thats the labour party and their supporters , they dont want to listen , only shout at you .

That`ll be you on ignore now scott for hurting steves feelings.

Do you know, I get one of those feelings that when you vote for politicians, they offer up more freedom as part of your vote and a bigger part in the decision making, but all the historical evidence says you always end up less freedom and zero say. Nah that don't happen, it is all for the greater good.

[Thomas]

It's pointless debating with you.  You don't read what I post. 

Yep , thats the labour party and their supporters , they dont want to listen , only shout at you .

That`ll be you on ignore now scott for hurting steves feelings.

[Thomas]

Are you on the hash now?

[Scott777]

Covid deaths are reported every single day. Pull your head out of your arse and you might notice instead of spouting rubbish.

So to conclude this wonderful and meaningful discussion: you don't know the meaning of 'conspiracy', conflate it with 'financial motivation', do not know the difference between 'with' and 'caused by', think that an 'actual' thing is different from a 'real' thing, refuse to answer any questions that I ask, but instead answer something else.  Hmmmm, the words troll and gaslighter come to mind, but I fear you won't know them.  I did hear that hash makes people paranoid, which might explain some things.

[srb7677]

Thanks for that nugget of information.  So you mean an actual thing is a real thing.  🤣

You are conflating genuine conspiracies with idiotic and baseless conspiracy theories by fruitcakes.