Millions can't access dental treatment

[papasmurf]

How many are immigrants?

I suggest that is research you do for yourself. I can only comment there is a two year wait at least in Cornwall to get registered with an NHS dentist and from the last census ethnic minorities in legally resident in Cornwall as are rare as rocking horse poo and Unicorns. There are nearly 50000 on the NHS dentist waiting list:-



https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/demand-action-nearly-50000-waiting-2740356">https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornw ... ng-2740356">https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/demand-action-nearly-50000-waiting-2740356

[Scott777]

After the time the Tories have been in office this is a disgrace:-



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50467776">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50467776



More than 2 million adults in England are unable to see an NHS dentist, BBC analysis suggests.

They include an estimated 1.45 million who have tried and failed to get an NHS appointment in two years with the rest on waiting lists or put off by cost.

Another 2 million assume they cannot get care where they live, suggesting nearly one in 10 miss out overall.

Dental leaders said the findings - based on official NHS data - showed access was a problem in every region.

How many are immigrants?

[T00ts]

Our lead dentist (practice owner) set up a private insurance scheme a couple of years ago. We had free assessments and they wanted £30 per month, so £360 a year to put us into the private sector. As we generally have 2 check-ups per year at around £25, there was no way we were going to go private on that insurance scheme. On balance, with any insurance scheme, they make money and we lose out. I'd rather save the money and will pay out if something demands it.

After years of NHS poor treatment I went private about 25 years ago. I have always paid as I go rather than have insurance. My checkup is £35 once a year and any further treatment isn't prohibitive. The difference is the care. I no longer get treated like a car in for service with dodgy mechanics.

[Barry]

Our lead dentist (practice owner) set up a private insurance scheme a couple of years ago. We had free assessments and they wanted £30 per month, so £360 a year to put us into the private sector. As we generally have 2 check-ups per year at around £25, there was no way we were going to go private on that insurance scheme. On balance, with any insurance scheme, they make money and we lose out. I'd rather save the money and will pay out if something demands it.

[Churchill]

I suppose its all down to wether we think dentistry should be free or that we pay for it . Personally I think most people should be able to pay for a private dentist . I have more problems than most , £100 every 3 months for a hygienist , the private check up , £30 every 6 . .That's £460 a year , or , hang on .......about £1.50 a day . Which says to me everyone should go private on dentistry and the NHS can then concentrate on people with something wrong with them .

The cost of a check up for me as an NHS patient is £25 per check up and having them cleaned every 6 months by the Hygienist is £50 a time, I had to have a crown replaced last year that cost me £90,

[papasmurf]

 Personally I think most people should be able to pay for a private dentist .

Having recently looked at the private charges list at two local dentists you must be joking. My wife and I cannot afford it. The cost of NHS dentistry is bad enough.

[Borchester]

Borchester

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That is me.



Personally, I can't see what is wrong with a length of string tied to the door knob      

[Streetwalker]

After the time the Tories have been in office this is a disgrace:-



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50467776">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50467776



More than 2 million adults in England are unable to see an NHS dentist, BBC analysis suggests.

They include an estimated 1.45 million who have tried and failed to get an NHS appointment in two years with the rest on waiting lists or put off by cost.

Another 2 million assume they cannot get care where they live, suggesting nearly one in 10 miss out overall.

Dental leaders said the findings - based on official NHS data - showed access was a problem in every region.

I suppose its all down to wether we think dentistry should be free or that we pay for it . Personally I think most people should be able to pay for a private dentist . I have more problems than most , £100 every 3 months for a hygienist , the private check up , £30 every 6 . .That's £460 a year , or , hang on .......about £1.50 a day . Which says to me everyone should go private on dentistry and the NHS can then concentrate on people with something wrong with them .

[Barry]

My teeth might be rotting in my head but if I can't feel it I am not worried. The students were happy to practise on me so there was no charge.

Borchester

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[Borchester]

https://www.dentalhealth.org/paying-for-dental-treatment-in-the-united-kingdom">//https://www.dentalhealth.org/paying-for-dental-treatment-in-the-united-kingdom

It seems that in 1951 the Conservative government of Winston Churchill thought the costs of NHS dental treatment were too high for government to bear from taxation, and instead introduced charges for dental treatment.

I would like to see dental treatment free at the point of treatment, the same as the rest of the health service. While we are at it, perhaps we could have free eye checks and spectacles. It will all have to be paid for from taxation, mind, nothing is really free.

 



I had root canal treatment done 40 years ago free and for nothing at Guys Dental Hospital. My teeth might be rotting in my head but if I can't feel it I am not worried. The students were happy to practise on me so there was no charge. I haven't worn glasses since I was a kid and a girlfriend told me I looked like a dick. My hearing aid is free because I am old and for the same reason I don't have have to pay to replace the Freedom Pass that I lose every couple of months.



I love socialised healthcare, provided someone else is paying for it.

[Churchill]

An eye test by your Doctor or Optician can show indications of



Diabetes, Hypertension ,Autoimmune disorders, High cholesterol,Thyroid disease, Cancern develop in the cells that make pigmentation in the eye. Your eye exam can also help detect skin cancer. Basal cell carcinomas can appear on the eyelid and could even spread to the brain through the eye.

Tumors— Droopy eyelid or irregularly shaped pupils could possibly indicate a neck tumor or an aneurism

[Ciaphas]

My worry is that regular dental checkups can find other medical problems early so they can be sorted before they cause very what can be in some cases fatal consequences.

Eye checks can identify diabetes I believe.



Also a positive from a safeguarding perspective since increased chance of picking up issues.

[papasmurf]

Untreated dental or eye issues will end up being dealt with by the NHS eventually and likely at far greater cost than the initial preventative care.



Bit of a no brainer really.

My worry is that regular dental checkups can find other medical problems early so they can be sorted before they cause very what can be in some cases fatal consequences.

[Baron von Lotsov]

Bit of a no brainer really.

It's more of a large no brainer in fact. If sufficient brains did exist then the supply of dentists would mean they were plentiful and falling over each other for customers. My woman's brother was a dentist, and although Maltese, he made his career in Britain and set up a practice near to Brighton. He employed 14 dentists, and has managed to retire early so he can spend the rest of his days sailing his yacht around Malta with his other brothers and sisters who have their own. The family is a medical family you see. Medicine pays a lot of money. The British find it too complicated. They were never given the chance you see, because 97% of them got a state education, and you know what that means. My woman's family were lucky in that they were all privately educated. So the problem is an education problem.

[Ciaphas]

https://www.dentalhealth.org/paying-for-dental-treatment-in-the-united-kingdom">//https://www.dentalhealth.org/paying-for-dental-treatment-in-the-united-kingdom

It seems that in 1951 the Conservative government of Winston Churchill thought the costs of NHS dental treatment were too high for government to bear from taxation, and instead introduced charges for dental treatment.

I would like to see dental treatment free at the point of treatment, the same as the rest of the health service. While we are at it, perhaps we could have free eye checks and spectacles. It will all have to be paid for from taxation, mind, nothing is really free.

Untreated dental or eye issues will end up being dealt with by the NHS eventually and likely at far greater cost than the initial preventative care.



Bit of a no brainer really.