Brits deported from Spain

[Thomas]

It only makes sense if they were avoiding signing up in order to dodge taxes. They didn't want to start paying taxes so they did nothing, gambling that leaving the EU would make no difference.  That gamble has not come off. Their own selfish greed has been their undoing it seems.

Funny steve how you rail against nasty blue rinse brexiters in spain voting for their nations freedom from the eu and trying to avoid taxes , yet as ever have little to say about high(ish) profile labour politicians like scottish branch manager anas sarwar when his family run business fail to pay minimum wage and refuse union recognition.

Im always amazed at what you pick and choose to turn a blind eye to when preaching about taxes workers rights and this better world labour are going to create but never seem to get around to.

Anas Sarwar claims family business doesn't pay living wage because it doesn't have to

SCOTTISH Labour leader hopeful Anas Sarwar says his family's business doesn't pay the real living wage because it doesn't have to.

In a brutal interview on the BBC's Good Morning Scotland radio programme, the Glasgow MSP also denied that being a millionaire, who sends his children to a £10,000-a-year private school meant he was "one of the few".

Sarwar owns around a quarter of the shares in his family's United Wholesale (Scotland) Ltd, worth an estimated £4.8m

https://www.thenational.scot/news/15546891.anas-sarwar-claims-family-business-doesnt-pay-living-wage-because-it-doesnt-have-to/


another mulit millionaire champagne labour party socialist in charge of the party branch. One of the few lmfao.

Labour for the few not the many .

[srb7677]

I cannot understand why people would sit on their arse and do nothing to secure their situation. It makes no sense.

It only makes sense if they were avoiding signing up in order to dodge taxes. They didn't want to start paying taxes so they did nothing, gambling that leaving the EU would make no difference.  That gamble has not come off. Their own selfish greed has been their undoing it seems.

[Barry]

Spain has a higher rate of income tax than the UK, mostly owing to the high personal allowances in the UK, compared to the Spanish allowances being less. It's not a low tax country, only for the politicians and royals.

[Streetwalker]

Just curious. What is the Spanish tax rate on retirement income sourced from abroad ??

From what Im told any income is treated the same wherever it comes from . 19% is the starting rate from 0 with increases with regard to income .
The basic state pension in the UK is about £7K pa  (I think thats right ) which means if you live in Spain you loose about
£25 a week to the Spanish taxman .

[johnofgwent]

It's more than a suspicion. If you are living below the radar in Spain you won't have a número identificación, without which, it is impossible to complete a tax return, whether as a resident or non resident.
So, they are not paying the Hacienda a penny, peseta, or centimo.

Just curious. What is the Spanish tax rate on retirement income sourced from abroad ??

[johnofgwent]

I think you and barry ( as well as others) have just completely taken the wind out of steves remoaner sails in this thread john.

I cannot understand why people would sit on their arse and do nothing to secure their situation. It makes no sense.

[Thomas]

Yup.


My Diving Instructor's brother moved to Spain years ago and pretty much the first thing he did was learn to speak the lingo as a native (otherwise how do you know what the plumber is saying behind your back) and the second thing he did was sort out his status.


Funnily enough he lives in an area generally populated by locals and he's had none of the issues others report. He voted to leave too.


In my own case I remember when I was working in France after Major started working on selling the Maastricht treaty but years before Lisbon, it was explained up front exactly what I would need to do if I was interested in becoming a citizen of France. But the documents were all in French. If you wanted or needed a translation that was down to you to pay for ...


If these twonks have buried their head in the sand hoping it will all go away I'm afraid I'm rather short on compassion too ....

I think you and barry ( as well as others) have just completely taken the wind out of steves remoaner sails in this thread john.

It all started so beautifully for him with his "stupid brexiter "story before his fireworks were well and truly pissed on .

I was just thinking there that this covid 19 malarkey been a year now in the making , and we are a year further down the road to the next general election , and i have to say , i have been completely underwhelmed by labour and thier remonaer supporters like gerry badfellow and steve srb.

This softly softly catcheee monkey approach to winning the hearts and minds of the brexiting majority across the uk just isnt going to plan for them is it? It seems to be having the opposite affect , what with the vaccine debacle , growing anti eu sentiment acorss europe and the eu generally looking feckin stupid and out of touch.

Things can change as we know , a week is a long time in politics , but its looking pretty feckin grim i must say for starmer and his labour party remoaner cheerleaders.

[johnofgwent]

Speaking as an expert on this subject, all of those Brits had 4 years to prepare for this.

They were told that if they wanted to remain in Spain they should ensure they were there officially and not pretending to be temporary tourists.
For this they had to apply for a Certificado de registro como residente comunitario which is commonly known as "residencia". After having one for 5 years, the right to remain is permanent.

The problem for many was that they might have to start paying tax in Spain, or that the Spanish authorities might communicate with HMRC (they do).
However, people preferred to prevaricate, obfuscate, do anything but be officially resident in Spain.

So don't cry any tears for these people. I know several people who voted to leave the EU who live in Spain, and who are still living there, with their Certificado de registro como residente comunitario safely in their wallets and handbags.
Those people have no problem.

These people who failed to register and stayed in Spain more than 3 months at a time, without registering, were ALWAYS breaking the law. They thought they were being clever and I've advised them for years to register, so if they did not, tough.

Yup.


My Diving Instructor's brother moved to Spain years ago and pretty much the first thing he did was learn to speak the lingo as a native (otherwise how do you know what the plumber is saying behind your back) and the second thing he did was sort out his status.


Funnily enough he lives in an area generally populated by locals and he's had none of the issues others report. He voted to leave too.


In my own case I remember when I was working in France after Major started working on selling the Maastricht treaty but years before Lisbon, it was explained up front exactly what I would need to do if I was interested in becoming a citizen of France. But the documents were all in French. If you wanted or needed a translation that was down to you to pay for ...


If these twonks have buried their head in the sand hoping it will all go away I'm afraid I'm rather short on compassion too ....

[Thomas]

Whereas you prefer the Daily Mail, naturally. You often sound like one of their typical readers,

as you do as a typical guardian readin liberal hand wringer. When you arent stoned of course.

[srb7677]

Talk about the Daily Mail. The source is best described as "left of centre" click bait.

Whereas you prefer the Daily Mail, naturally. You often sound like one of their typical readers,

[srb7677]

Why should someone living abroad pay UK tax anyway?
If they have paid their full stamp already they'll get a full pension, if they haven't they won't.

Terrible those Bees when they get in your bonnet.

I think the issue is that they have been living in Spain without paying a single euro in taxes to the Spanish authorities. Not surprised the Spanish want rid of such freeloaders.

[cromwell]

Why should someone living abroad pay UK tax anyway?
If they have paid their full stamp already they'll get a full pension, if they haven't they won't.

Terrible those Bees when they get in your bonnet.

I dunno land of the free champion of free trade and the home of capitalism you live home or away you pay your tax

[Barry]

And are they? Is there any suspicion that they are not paying Spanish tax?

It's more than a suspicion. If you are living below the radar in Spain you won't have a número identificación, without which, it is impossible to complete a tax return, whether as a resident or non resident.
So, they are not paying the Hacienda a penny, peseta, or centimo.

[Streetwalker]

And are they? Is there any suspicion that they are not paying Spanish tax?

It would be a good as any reason to avoid applying for residency . There will always be a few free loaders who will try avoid paying their way in society . It would appear we are going to be getting a few of ours returned to us courtesy of the Spanish authorities .

Its just a shame we dont do the same

[Thomas]

And are they? Is there any suspicion that they are not paying Spanish tax?

apparently steve is very concerned about the blue rinse tax dodgers nick.