What is the point of Keir Starmer? After a year, we still don't know

[Thomas]

Don't you think that Starmer has simply been unable to step up a gear? As a front bencher with Corbyn as his foil he looked pretty superior but he has proved pretty gutless as a leader. Charisma doesn't need to be everything in a leader ( I refer back to Blair who carried everything before his just on a practised smile and a few buzz words) but it does help to have presentational ability and poor man he has a combination of a wooden delivery with clay feet. He always makes me wonder what he is like at home.

When labour pick a bad leader , they certainly scrape the bottom of the barrell toots as is the case with starmer.

We pointed much of this out to labour supporters like good old on this forum a year ago , and it was shrugged off while we aere told to give him time , and all the other nonsensical excuses about him playing the long game and his tacitical nous.

Here we are a year further into his reign as party leader , he has had numerous open goals on the tories  in  England and even the snp in scotland , and has fluffed his shots time and again with massively falling ratings and people asking what exactly is the point of labour and starmer?

The problem as everyone outside the london bubble seems to be aware of is the fact starmer and the blairites are largely southern english middle class champagne socialists completely out of touch with everyone and everything north of the watford gap.

[DeppityDawg]

Looks like labour is on the verge of losing Hartlepool on Thursday

It's been a labour seat for 60 years.

[T00ts]

Don't you think that Starmer has simply been unable to step up a gear? As a front bencher with Corbyn as his foil he looked pretty superior but he has proved pretty gutless as a leader. Charisma doesn't need to be everything in a leader ( I refer back to Blair who carried everything before his just on a practised smile and a few buzz words) but it does help to have presentational ability and poor man he has a combination of a wooden delivery with clay feet. He always makes me wonder what he is like at home.

[Thomas]

I think you need to direct that question to the Times Of Israel, the Jewish Chronicle and perhaps whoever does the job Margaret Hodge used to.


They seemed rather impressed when he took over ...

Not really john , the longer sir keir stays in power , the happier im becoming.

Whatever it is you think the times of israel etc are doing , im pretty chuffed at the state they have labour in.

[johnofgwent]

I think you need to direct that question to the Times Of Israel, the Jewish Chronicle and perhaps whoever does the job Margaret Hodge used to.


They seemed rather impressed when he took over ...

[Thomas]

Well cheer up, because I was told over 50% of Labour voters want to rejoin the EU, which in total probably isn't even 10% of the voting population. I would guess they would happily let the SNP take the lead for them on that one anyway. As though somehow the EU is immune to everything else that is going on.

Remember sheep re joining the eu is an snp policy , not the scottish nations policy.

While the eu has massive support , if scotland becomes independent there will be a referendum on the matter. Its not a foregone conclusion that scotland will vote to rejoin if given the chance , many are talking about EFTA , and a smaller minority are talking about not joining.

So no matter what the snp say , it will in the end come down to the people of scotland at the EU invitation.

As for labour they are fecked.

Starmers trying and failing to sell the labour accepts brexit scenario while his membership , 60 % of them say otherwise. Who the feck is going to trust labour over the eu after what has went on , especially starmers antics , at westminster over the last five years?

[Sheepy]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/29/keir-starmer-year-labour-poll-ratings


Not a bad article from the lefty bible , but criticism of starmer continues to grow daily. Hopefully labour will leave him in place for the next good few years , but i have a funny feeling if things go as badly for him during the local , devolved elections then lefty patience with him could be about to run out.

Well cheer up, because I was told over 50% of Labour voters want to rejoin the EU, which in total probably isn't even 10% of the voting population. I would guess they would happily let the SNP take the lead for them on that one anyway. As though somehow the EU is immune to everything else that is going on.

[Thomas]

What is the point of Keir Starmer? After a year, we still don't know

The tepid Labour leader, once so lauded, has failed to offer anything to vote for. No wonder his poll ratings are plunging

Fresh off the back of the anniversary of the first lockdown, another not-so-auspicious political landmark is looming. On Sunday it will be exactly one year since Keir Starmer claimed victory in the Labour leadership contest, powered to the top job amid a lack of charismatic competition, and promising to unify a bitterly divided party.

Starmer's ascension, media pundits trumpeted, was Labour getting back on track. Philip Collins, writing in the Times, compared Starmer favourably to Labour prime-minister-who-never-was John Smith, stating he was "very good indeed". Ian Dunt exclaimed that "finally, there's a grownup in charge", and in July celebrated the first phase of Starmer's leadership as a "resounding success". In the Guardian, columnists confidently predicted that, under Starmer, Labour could once more hold the Tories to account, describing the QC as a big-brained grownup wielding cool authority.

What is the point of Keir Starmer? After a year, we still don't know
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The tepid Labour leader, once so lauded, has failed to offer anything to vote for. No wonder his poll ratings are plunging
Keir Starmer adjusts his tie
'He can't even inspire his own slogan.' Keir Starmer. Photograph: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images
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Fresh off the back of the anniversary of the first lockdown, another not-so-auspicious political landmark is looming. On Sunday it will be exactly one year since Keir Starmer claimed victory in the Labour leadership contest, powered to the top job amid a lack of charismatic competition, and promising to unify a bitterly divided party.

Starmer's ascension, media pundits trumpeted, was Labour getting back on track. Philip Collins, writing in the Times, compared Starmer favourably to Labour prime-minister-who-never-was John Smith, stating he was "very good indeed". Ian Dunt exclaimed that "finally, there's a grownup in charge", and in July celebrated the first phase of Starmer's leadership as a "resounding success". In the Guardian, columnists confidently predicted that, under Starmer, Labour could once more hold the Tories to account, describing the QC as a big-brained grownup wielding cool authority.
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Hindsight truly is a fine thing. The last 12 months seem to have confirmed that, while Starmer might be a commentariat's politician, the general public is rather less enthused. Last year, I outlined why Starmer's apparent strategy of constant abstention was not establishing him as a great statesmen in the eyes of the British population, but serving to erase him from their thoughts altogether. (The piece was headlined: "Keir Starmer is a wet wipe".)

Nearly four months on, polling numbers for Starmer are dire. On 15 March, 45% of YouGov survey respondents said Starmer was doing "badly". Only 32% felt he was doing "well"

It's telling that Starmer's tenure has inspired the term "continuity Milibandism", a reference to the plodding leadership of Ed Miliband that preferred The Thick of It-style stunts over building grassroots support. Perhaps there is no more damning indictment of Starmer's first year failures: he can't even inspire his own slogan

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/29/keir-starmer-year-labour-poll-ratings


Not a bad article from the lefty bible , but criticism of starmer continues to grow daily. Hopefully labour will leave him in place for the next good few years , but i have a funny feeling if things go as badly for him during the local , devolved elections then lefty patience with him could be about to run out.