We don't have enough Lorry drivers?

Started by Sheepy, June 09, 2021, 10:25:42 AM

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papasmurf

Quote from: johnofgwent on June 09, 2021, 01:35:40 PM
Of course, several adverts on Google offer UK HGV training to test level for £199 in four days ....


That has to be some kind of scam. (Seriously.)
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Sheepy

So, what we are saying really and so is Haulage companies, green might be made of dreams but dreams don't supply the technology and infrastructure needed as it hasn't even been invented or even what has, hasn't been put in place?
So, we need more HGV drivers more training like it or not and relying on floods of cheap labour from Brussels certainly has not helped the infrastructure or invented a green cure for all ills or helped the UK eco system one tiny bit.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

johnofgwent

Of course, several adverts on Google offer UK HGV training to test level for £199 in four days ....


I think I see where those Romanians went to get theirs
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johnofgwent

Quote from: Sheepy on June 09, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
I knew we would get your take on it Smurfy, I will reply fully later when we get a few other people's thoughts on it.


He's not far off is MY take on it.


There is an HGV training company right next door to my old employer, and another set up shop on the land next to that bought by a neighbour who went into the limos, weddings and Chippendale firemen business after being laid off from the steelworks ...


Both have been put of business for the whole pandemic as have ordinary driving schools.


I do not know how much it costs to get the top class HGV but it is NOT cheap and the lesser classes are pointless as a neighbour of mine found out some years ago


As always Britain has relied on Monday class Ng the EUs workforce rather than train its own, although the frequency with which Lithuanian and Romanian tossers roll a 42 tonner on the southern relief road makes me wonder how trained they are....


BREXIT should have provided many opportunities.


Four years of wasted mascinations has screwed that.

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papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on June 09, 2021, 12:55:52 PM
I won't feel safe if hundreds of trucks are being driven around the country by drivers who have had just a week or so of training...

It is two weeks intensive training, plus you have to pass a test.
Then many types lorry need specialist training on top of that.
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patman post

Hackney Greens and their earnest fellow travellers want a couple of central warehouses in the borough with individual deliveries to stores made by cargo pedal bikes. I admit we shouldn't be tied to tradition, and should encourage off the wall suggestions, but some proposals are just plain barking.


The lack of trained people to staff hospitality, delivery and other service sectors caused by EU people leaving, becomes more of an obvious problem as the pandemic recedes. Failing to recognise that not all training requires tutoring to diploma or degree level has classified many jobs/people as unskilled. Dealing with such staffing shortages from local personnel cannot be done overnight — plus, in the case of heavy goods drivers, I won't feel safe if hundreds of trucks are being driven around the country by drivers who have had just a week or so of training...
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papasmurf

Quote from: Sheepy on June 09, 2021, 11:02:49 AM
Plenty of them?, you didn't didn't include the green lobby or the price of fuel and how its cut profits for a couple. I have a few more ready.

Those are "noises off."
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Sheepy

Quote from: papasmurf on June 09, 2021, 10:59:38 AM
No "take" involved. Plenty of facts about the issue from the logistics industry.
Plenty of them?, you didn't didn't include the green lobby or the price of fuel and how its cut profits for a couple. I have a few more ready.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

papasmurf

Quote from: Sheepy on June 09, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
I knew we would get your take on it Smurfy, I will reply fully later when we get a few other people's thoughts on it.

No "take" involved. Plenty of facts about the issue from the logistics industry.
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Sheepy

Quote from: papasmurf on June 09, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Driving training schools across the entire range of driving schools have been shut during the pamdemic (Only just reopening.)
When it comes to HGVs it cost a lot of money to train. (It cost me £1000 to get a group 1 articulated truck licence back in 1972 so it must be very expensive now.
HGV driver are amongst the 1 million European workers who have left the country during the pandemic, and Angel of Death, (Priti Patel) won't let them back in.
The long delays due to post Brexit paperwork is adding to the problem.
I knew we would get your take on it Smurfy, I will reply fully later when we get a few other people's thoughts on it.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

papasmurf

Quote from: Sheepy on June 09, 2021, 10:25:42 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/fresh-food-rotting-in-cold-stores-due-to-a-brexit-hgv-driver-shortage/ar-AAKRnZG?ocid=msedgntp
Today's drama, so you are telling me in a nation which is thoroughly overcrowded and overpopulated, you could manage to deliver everything needed in a full lockdown situation but now don't have enough delivery drivers?

Driving training schools across the entire range of driving schools have been shut during the pamdemic (Only just reopening.)
When it comes to HGVs it cost a lot of money to train. (It cost me £1000 to get a group 1 articulated truck licence back in 1972 so it must be very expensive now.
HGV driver are amongst the 1 million European workers who have left the country during the pandemic, and Angel of Death, (Priti Patel) won't let them back in.
The long delays due to post Brexit paperwork is adding to the problem.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Sheepy

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/fresh-food-rotting-in-cold-stores-due-to-a-brexit-hgv-driver-shortage/ar-AAKRnZG?ocid=msedgntp
Today's drama, so you are telling me in a nation which is thoroughly overcrowded and overpopulated, you could manage to deliver everything needed in a full lockdown situation but now don't have enough delivery drivers?

Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!