UK-Australia trade deal: What are the arguments for and against?

[papasmurf]

How about the lazy sods actually start growing stuff for a change instead of turning their fields into glamping sites?

I would like to see you try being lazy on a farm.

[patman post]

How about the lazy sods actually start growing stuff for a change instead of turning their fields into glamping sites?

The recent tendency of turning former grazing land into camp sites could cause outbreaks of E.coli O157 and other infections — especially with the recent wet weather — so a return to raising meat could be an option.   
Overall though, farming stats show declines in arable crop areas, crop yields and production, livestock and workforce. 
Barley's up though — could be to do with increased beer production (despite cask ales having to be poured away early in the pandemic)... 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/946161/structure-jun2020final-uk-22dec20.pdf

[patman post]

Not quite.

Since the UK gave the EU more than the EU gave the UK, all that was happening was that we sent the money to Brussels, Mrs Leyen took a few bob off for whatever the Commission spends everyone else' money on and sent some back.

Under the new arrangement the UK will pay the farmers direct and save money and postage.

Not quite the point, is it?   
Whether farmers receive subsidised from the EU or the UK, it doesn't boost production. But at least the EU arrangement shielded them from overseas competition.   
Now we have wait and see what's left in the borrowing kitty to know if any compensation can be cobbled together...

[Nick]

Under the new arrangement the UK will pay the farmers direct and save money and postage.

How about the lazy sods actually start growing stuff for a change instead of turning their fields into glamping sites?

[Borchester]

Sadly, British farmers screwed themselves by tailoring their operating models to EU standards and quotas, relying on subsidies, and then the majority becoming the unthinking voices for Brexit.   
They threw away CAP subsidies, which could represent 35 to 50% of their total gross income — in some areas this surprisingly this could be up to 100%.
On second thoughts, as consultants Agra Europe reckon only the super-efficient, top 10% of UK farms can survive without subsidies, it could be best to let nature take its course as chickens coming home to roost... 

Not quite.

Since the UK gave the EU more than the EU gave the UK, all that was happening was that we sent the money to Brussels, Mrs Leyen took a few bob off for whatever the Commission spends everyone else' money on and sent some back.

Under the new arrangement the UK will pay the farmers direct and save money and postage.

[patman post]

Sadly, British farmers screwed themselves by tailoring their operating models to EU standards and quotas, relying on subsidies, and then the majority becoming the unthinking voices for Brexit.   
They threw away CAP subsidies, which could represent 35 to 50% of their total gross income — in some areas this surprisingly this could be up to 100%.
On second thoughts, as consultants Agra Europe reckon only the super-efficient, top 10% of UK farms can survive without subsidies, it could be best to let nature take its course as chickens coming home to roost... 

[papasmurf]

Bojo-The-Clown has screwed the British fishing industry with the Dog's Brexit and is about to do the same with British farmers.

[GBNews]

UK-Australia trade deal: What are the arguments for and against?

The government has agreed the broad terms of a trade deal with Australia.

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