We have been part of an experiment

[papasmurf]

Don't lie Smurphy, your fears are written all over the place. Anybody with an iota of knowledge could take full advantage of them. From mask wearing to hiding under the bed. Which is why I gave Cromwell a pass, because he showed he cared more about his wife shuffling off before him.

More personal insults, because you are unable to debate.   It is impossible to hide under my bed anyway, it has built in storage underneath it.
Being careful and keeping clear of idiot antivaxxers who don't give  a damn about anyone else is being prudent.

[Borchester]

Don't lie Smurphy, your fears are written all over the place. Anybody with an iota of knowledge could take full advantage of them. From mask wearing to hiding under the bed. Which is why I gave Cromwell a pass, because he showed he cared more about his wife shuffling off before him.

Quite.

When the womenfolk start making a fuss the only thing for us to do is to say yes dear, no dear three bags full and take the shot of whatever coloured water the local surgery is handing out.

But once out of their sight and hearing, that is no need for us to run around like blue bummed flies and pretend that this nonsense really matters.

[Borchester]

Actually I do not fear dying. But if I catch Covid from an anti vaxxer they will die before I do.

Pappy crwals from beneath his bed and crowns a tourist with his chamber pot.

[Sheepy]

Actually I do not fear dying. But if I catch Covid from an anti vaxxer they will die before I do.

Don't lie Smurphy, your fears are written all over the place. Anybody with an iota of knowledge could take full advantage of them. From mask wearing to hiding under the bed. Which is why I gave Cromwell a pass, because he showed he cared more about his wife shuffling off before him.

[papasmurf]

But then you fear them nearly as much as you fear dying.

Actually I do not fear dying. But if I catch Covid from an anti vaxxer they will die before I do.

[Sheepy]

I think all of them are.

But then you fear them nearly as much as you fear dying. But not quite that's all. They cannot prolong your existence on this earthly plane, just because you think you can make them do so.

[papasmurf]

Well I think some anti vaxxers are crazy

I think all of them are.

[cromwell]

Locked down earlier, made the regulations law. Jail terms for those breaking them. Shut down anti-vaxxers access to the internet and other means of communication.
(Just a sample.)

Well I think some anti vaxxers are crazy but  you shouldn't shut down free speech,therein lies the road to extremism.

[Borchester]

Of course we have been part of an experiment. The alternative was to let Covid ramp through the population with nothing available that might help.

Which is what is happening now.

We are now into the third wave, the fatality rate has been rising for the last three months and the vaccines are clearly rubbish.

[Sheepy]

Of course we have been part of an experiment. The alternative was to let Covid ramp through the population with nothing available that might help. The scientists had no idea if they could cobble something together but they did produce something that seemed to give some protection. No-one knows how many would have died without the jabs.
Those countries either without or with less effective jabs tend to be secretive, others don't have the infrastructure to collate figures. We have seen evidence in other places where the authorities have pronounced it not serious.

The experiments will continue as mutations and more diseases come in the future. When catastrophe hits it's a bit mad to expect several years of tests to confirm the efficacy while many die. For my part die from Covid or the jab doesn't seem much of a choice. Luckily for us the scientists have created a blinder and a bit of a break through that will lead to other ground breaking cures/preventions.

It's easy to criticise when we don't walk in other's shoes. I just wonder how many, if they sat in the hot seat in Whitehall, would have really honestly made different decisions.

Big Pharma were quick off the mark admittedly toots, the Chinese were quicker though, after all they patented a vaccine before it was even common knowledge. Not that I am saying they knew how gullible everyone else is of course. Anyway back to the point, twice as many died who had been vaccinated as those who hadn't. But then not the fault of the vaccine but it being those super quick mutations. Which seem to happen faster and faster these days. Almost like they are triggered.

[papasmurf]

I just wonder how many, if they sat in the hot seat in Whitehall, would have really honestly made different decisions.

Locked down earlier, made the regulations law. Jail terms for those breaking them. Shut down anti-vaxxers access to the internet and other means of communication.
(Just a sample.)

[T00ts]

Of course we have been part of an experiment. The alternative was to let Covid ramp through the population with nothing available that might help. The scientists had no idea if they could cobble something together but they did produce something that seemed to give some protection. No-one knows how many would have died without the jabs.
Those countries either without or with less effective jabs tend to be secretive, others don't have the infrastructure to collate figures. We have seen evidence in other places where the authorities have pronounced it not serious.

The experiments will continue as mutations and more diseases come in the future. When catastrophe hits it's a bit mad to expect several years of tests to confirm the efficacy while many die. For my part die from Covid or the jab doesn't seem much of a choice. Luckily for us the scientists have created a blinder and a bit of a break through that will lead to other ground breaking cures/preventions.

It's easy to criticise when we don't walk in other's shoes. I just wonder how many, if they sat in the hot seat in Whitehall, would have really honestly made different decisions.

[Sheepy]

This is the sort of nonsense that is pumped out for the masses daily, I was reading that according to government figures twice the amount have died since February in the UK from Covid who were fully vaccinated, although this was said to be because 75% of the population were fully vaccinated? So although you can still catch Covid and die and pass it on when vaccinated, they are still a great thing. Now I know what you are thinking, you made that up, no I didn't they actually printed it. Now don't get me wrong, I realise the Westminster party think I walk around with an invisible tattoo on my forehead which says dumb cant, but not that dumb. 

[Barry]

I calculate she'll need one a fortnight, then.

[cromwell]

I was with some friends today who we've not seen for a while and they can't wait to get their booster jab.
They want the AZ booster jab, but when I informed them it's Pfizer or Moderna they said anything will do.
I can't believe how much people trust the vaccines, when two doses have not stopped them catching or transmitting, or dying with the Delta version.

Well Baz our GP and my wifes specialist both told her because of the medication she takes even with two jabs her immunity is less than 50% and after more than than 90 days less than 25% and that if she catches it will be serious.

They are both long term proffessionals and I reckon they know what they're talking about. so yeah I'm hoping she gets the booster.