We have been part of an experiment

Started by Sheepy, August 11, 2021, 10:03:37 AM

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Barry

From 12th May, the domestic NHS covid pass will no longer be available.

Good. Do away with the international travel requirements next. Every country has it, so what is the point?
† The end is nigh †

Scott777

Quote from: Nick on April 24, 2022, 11:55:46 AM
How can data be analysed without a timescale of over what period the data is sampled. You've also just stuck data in notepad without any source, and you wonder why nobody takes your data seriously.

Why can't data be analysed without a timescale?  If you are examining proportions, what does timescale show you?

The source is from the video, which is from GB News and from the UK Health Security Agency.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Borchester

Quote from: Nick on April 24, 2022, 11:55:46 AM
How can data be analysed without a timescale of over what period the data is sampled. You've also just stuck data in notepad without any source, and you wonder why nobody takes your data seriously.

They can't be.

The response to the Peking Pox has been well meaning hysteria on the part of various interest groups that could not be trusted to count the toes on a corpse.

On the other hand, I have just read a post on another board that declares that the Chinese Cough was started by Donald Trump as part of his plan to help his friend Vlad Putin invade Eastern Europe.

As I have probably mentioned before, most medics are low grade incompetents and the best treatment for anything is bedrest, self pity and alcohol. But they mean well, which is not some that can be said about most conspiracy theorists
Algerie Francais !

Nick

Quote from: Scott777 on April 24, 2022, 11:08:36 AM
How does timescale make a difference?
How can data be analysed without a timescale of over what period the data is sampled. You've also just stuck data in notepad without any source, and you wonder why nobody takes your data seriously. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Scott777

Quote from: Nick on April 23, 2022, 03:09:55 PM
That data is meaningless as there is no timescale on.

How does timescale make a difference?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: Barry on April 23, 2022, 02:55:52 PM
Jamie Jenkins has pretty much demolished Mark Stein's reasoning on Twitter.
Stats Jamie has been a real star when it comes to being honest about the pandemic and I know who I believe.
https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1517854304010387457


Jamie makes many false points here.  For example, he says "The boosted population are predominantly older people more likely to die."  But, as I have already said, the data is broken down by age, and every age above 18 shows a much higher death rate, so Jamie's comment is an incorrect refutation.  For example, 40-49 is 4 times higher.  He also says Steyn implies they are Covid deaths, but he doesn't, and that's not the point.  Looking through everything Jamies says, I can't see anything that refutes the meaning of the data.  But what do you think?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Nick

Quote from: Scott777 on April 23, 2022, 02:30:03 PM
Your point about elderly is taken into account, as the figures are broken down by age.  Here is a summary of those figures.  It shows, for every age group of 40+, there is at least 3.5 times more death among people who got jabbed, compared to not jabbed at all.  Maybe you could say it was people with existing conditions who were more likely to get jabbed, but that's nonsense, because we already know, over 80% of people got jabbed, so a large proportion could not have been vulnerable.
That data is meaningless as there is no timescale on. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Barry

Quote from: Scott777 on April 22, 2022, 02:41:17 PM
It's funny how no one wants to comment on the dangers of the vaccines, now we have data, and it doesn't fit with their narrative.  You know who you are, and you are cowards.

Official UK Figures: Increased Deaths Among Triple Jabbed
https://odysee.com/@JamesScott:1/3:37ec
Jamie Jenkins has pretty much demolished Mark Stein's reasoning on Twitter.
Stats Jamie has been a real star when it comes to being honest about the pandemic and I know who I believe.
https://twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1517854304010387457
† The end is nigh †

Scott777

Quote from: cromwell on April 22, 2022, 05:47:01 PM
Never felt the vaccines were a danger,my wife's had her fourth and I'm due mine,so what theory do you have about all these kids getting hepatitis?

Then I hope you check the stats for your age group, as just posted, before you get it.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: Streetwalker on April 22, 2022, 03:42:06 PM
First off anyone can make figures suit their narative if they dont look beyond the first page . For a start it was the elderly and the vulnerable who were more likely to take the vaccine than the youngsters so it would fit that more people would die or be hospitalised who had taken it .
The jury is still out as far as Im concerned ,the virus was an unknown ,the medics are still baffled by it to a large extent and the vaccine saved lives

Having said that Ive had a right bad time of it . My covid recovery has been long and its effects it seems ongoing . The vaccines  seemed to give  me some relief (it may have been co-incidental ) and normality was returning at the end of last year . The booster though sent my immune system out of kilt . I developed a bad case of Psoriasis and a cough later diagnosed as Asthma. Both linked to the booster jab ,though they only admit they can be brought on by 'vaccines'
The GP is obviously out of her depth and Im now seeing  specialists if seeings the right word as they only want to talk on the phone .

So it would seem I am not part of an experiment as they dont want to see me ,that they havn't a clue whats going on though has become blatently obvious

Your point about elderly is taken into account, as the figures are broken down by age.  Here is a summary of those figures.  It shows, for every age group of 40+, there is at least 3.5 times more death among people who got jabbed, compared to not jabbed at all.  Maybe you could say it was people with existing conditions who were more likely to get jabbed, but that's nonsense, because we already know, over 80% of people got jabbed, so a large proportion could not have been vulnerable.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: B0ycey on April 22, 2022, 03:00:26 PM
More like other things have taken Covid off the front pages and people are waking up to the fact that it was all hysteria. I am not against being vaccinated by the way given statistically adverse reactions were like a million to one and death was something even higher than that. Naturally the odd case made the news but really even the young had a greater chance of dying from Covid than a blood clot Cor Blimey  and the option of being vaccinated has always been optional so what's the big deal.


But people might not have woken up to it being hysteria.  Free society was hanging in the balance.  At least you have a moderate view on it, although I disagree on the risks of vaccines (the video tells you that, but Youtube have censored that video, and Odyssee is not working).  The big deal is that care-workers were mandated to take vaccines, and it could have gone further, indeed it would have without so many huge protests and resistance.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Borchester

I feel like shit.

I thought that I would burn it off with a bit of gardening, but it took me four hours to plant two pumpkins.

Apart from the aches and pains, which I can handle with aspirin and self pity, I feel so bloody glum.

I blame that fat sod Xi Jinping
Algerie Francais !

cromwell

Quote from: Scott777 on April 22, 2022, 02:41:17 PM
It's funny how no one wants to comment on the dangers of the vaccines, now we have data, and it doesn't fit with their narrative.  You know who you are, and you are cowards.

Official UK Figures: Increased Deaths Among Triple Jabbed
https://odysee.com/@JamesScott:1/3:37ec
Never felt the vaccines were a danger,my wife's had her fourth and I'm due mine,so what theory do you have about all these kids getting hepatitis?
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Streetwalker

Quote from: Scott777 on April 22, 2022, 02:41:17 PM
It's funny how no one wants to comment on the dangers of the vaccines, now we have data, and it doesn't fit with their narrative.  You know who you are, and you are cowards.

Official UK Figures: Increased Deaths Among Triple Jabbed
https://odysee.com/@JamesScott:1/3:37ec
First off anyone can make figures suit their narative if they dont look beyond the first page . For a start it was the elderly and the vulnerable who were more likely to take the vaccine than the youngsters so it would fit that more people would die or be hospitalised who had taken it . 
The jury is still out as far as Im concerned ,the virus was an unknown ,the medics are still baffled by it to a large extent and the vaccine saved lives 

Having said that Ive had a right bad time of it . My covid recovery has been long and its effects it seems ongoing . The vaccines  seemed to give  me some relief (it may have been co-incidental ) and normality was returning at the end of last year . The booster though sent my immune system out of kilt . I developed a bad case of Psoriasis and a cough later diagnosed as Asthma. Both linked to the booster jab ,though they only admit they can be brought on by 'vaccines'
The GP is obviously out of her depth and Im now seeing  specialists if seeings the right word as they only want to talk on the phone .

So it would seem I am not part of an experiment as they dont want to see me ,that they havn't a clue whats going on though has become blatently obvious 

B0ycey

Quote from: Scott777 on April 22, 2022, 02:41:17 PM
It's funny how no one wants to comment on the dangers of the vaccines, now we have data, and it doesn't fit with their narrative.  You know who you are, and you are cowards.

Official UK Figures: Increased Deaths Among Triple Jabbed
https://odysee.com/@JamesScott:1/3:37ec
More like other things have taken Covid off the front pages and people are waking up to the fact that it was all hysteria. I am not against being vaccinated by the way given statistically adverse reactions were like a million to one and death was something even higher than that. Naturally the odd case made the news but really even the young had a greater chance of dying from Covid than a blood clot FFS and the option of being vaccinated has always been optional so what's the big deal.