Interesting notes on funding for XR.

[patman post]

That really needs to be explained...

As explained already, much of the funding (Emergency Climate Fund) got money from Aileen Getty, whose granddad got rich from petrol.  So the money comes from oil.  The object is to push government into funding green technology.  That will make a profit for the corporations.

Thanks for the explanation, was a bit slow on making a connection there. But personally I have no problems with established corporations (or individuals) with money seeing the light and funding green technology R&D and making more money out of activities and products that enhance the environment and give more-agreeable lives to me, mine and the world in general...

[Scott777]

As explained already, much of the funding (Emergency Climate Fund) got money from Aileen Getty, whose granddad got rich from petrol.  So the money comes from oil.  The object is to push government into funding green technology.  That will make a profit for the corporations.

No it won't.



At one time half the wind farms in the UK were owned by Shell, which sold them off because they weren't making any money.



Paul Getty made his money by being a shrewd businessman. Aileen Getty is a numbnuts sitting on a pile of inherited cash that she does not know what to do with

It won't necessarily be windfarms.  It may be tech to extract CO2 from the air.  You see, planting trees does't make as much money.

[Scott777]

It's people who are rich from oil, and the object is more profit.

To me it would better be described as fraud.

 :hattip

[Borchester]

That really needs to be explained...

As explained already, much of the funding (Emergency Climate Fund) got money from Aileen Getty, whose granddad got rich from petrol.  So the money comes from oil.  The object is to push government into funding green technology.  That will make a profit for the corporations.

No it won't.



At one time half the wind farms in the UK were owned by Shell, which sold them off because they weren't making any money.



Paul Getty made his money by being a shrewd businessman. Aileen Getty is a numbnuts sitting on a pile of inherited cash that she does not know what to do with

[Baron von Lotsov]

It's people who are rich from oil, and the object is more profit.

To me it would better be described as fraud.

[Barry]

Oh dear, she's gone and got herself nicked for criminal damage, which she was videoed in the act!

https://news.sky.com/video/extinction-rebellion-co-founder-gail-barbrook-arrested-11836291">//https://news.sky.com/video/extinction-rebellion-co-founder-gail-barbrook-arrested-11836291

I thought her name was Bradbrook, not Barbook, Sky News can't get the staff, either.

[Scott777]

It's people who are rich from oil, and the object is more profit.

That really needs to be explained...

As explained already, much of the funding (Emergency Climate Fund) got money from Aileen Getty, whose granddad got rich from petrol.  So the money comes from oil.  The object is to push government into funding green technology.  That will make a profit for the corporations.

[patman post]

Not sure why wealthy people funding good causes should be derided here.

It's people who are rich from oil, and the object is more profit.

That really needs to be explained...

[Scott777]

Not sure why wealthy people funding good causes should be derided here.

It's people who are rich from oil, and the object is more profit.

[patman post]

Steel making is a 24-hour process. Pollution from many manufacturing sources is still being tackled today. Although named the Carnegie Steel Company, in 1892 it was being run by "Union-Buster" Henry Clay Frick while Carnegie was out of the country. It's true Frick's efforts to break the union during a wage claim resulted in a bitter strike. But support for the strike collapsed after Frick was seriously wounded during an assassination attempt.

Of course all this can be used to deride Carnegie's philanthropic actions and motives, but he has had a lasting positive effect on other wealthy donors over the last 100 years right up to and including Bill Gates...



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/the-20-most-generous-people-in-the-world-a6757046.html">https://www.independent.co.uk/news/peop ... 57046.html">https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/the-20-most-generous-people-in-the-world-a6757046.html

[Borchester]

Not sure why wealthy people funding good causes should be derided here.

In the US it's an accepted part of that society's structure. Way back in the late 1800's and 1900's, Andrew Carnegie, one of the richest ever Americans who by his death in 1919 had given away about 90% of his fortune (around $10 billion today). His "Gospel of Wealth" treatise called on the rich to use their wealth to improve society. This stimulated a wave of philanthropy that continues today...

Carnegie also had his workers putting in 24 hour days at his smoke belching steelworks and turned the Pinkertons on them when they objected to a pay cut.

[patman post]

Not sure why wealthy people funding good causes should be derided here.

In the US it's an accepted part of that society's structure. Way back in the late 1800's and 1900's, Andrew Carnegie, one of the richest ever Americans who by his death in 1919 had given away about 90% of his fortune (around $10 billion today). His "Gospel of Wealth" treatise called on the rich to use their wealth to improve society. This stimulated a wave of philanthropy that continues today...

[Baron von Lotsov]

Another link. FT readers can be really useful!



https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09622618">https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09622618



" BRADBROOK, Gail Marie



Correspondence address

    The Exchange, Brick Row, Stroud, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom, GL5 1DF



Role Active

    Director



Date of birth

    April 1972



Appointed on

    3 June 2015



Nationality

    British



Country of residence

    England



Occupation

    Not For Profit Manager "





Google the address and things start to click into place.



https://suite.endole.co.uk/explorer/postcode/gl5-1df">https://suite.endole.co.uk/explorer/postcode/gl5-1df



FT reader says that HMRC might be interested, given the rules of charitable status.

[Baron von Lotsov]

Sir Christopher Hohn



Donated £50 000 to ER



This is him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hohn">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hohn

This is his charity



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Children%27s_Investment_Fund_Management">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Child ... Management">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Children%27s_Investment_Fund_Management (he transferred £4.5 billion to it)



And this is Baron Malloch-Brown who works there.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Malloch_Brown,_Baron_Malloch-Brown">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Mall ... loch-Brown">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Malloch_Brown,_Baron_Malloch-Brown



"George Mark Malloch Brown, Baron Malloch-Brown, KCMG, PC (born 16 September 1953)[1] is a former UK government minister (2007 – 2009) and United Nations Deputy Secretary-General (2006), as well as development specialist at the World Bank and United Nations (1994 – 2005), and a communications consultant and journalist. He was Minister of State in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office of the British Labour party government with responsibility for Africa, Asia and the United Nations (June 2007 - July 2009). Following his appointment to government, Malloch Brown was created a life peer on 9 July 2007 as Baron Malloch-Brown, of St Leonard's Forest in the County of West Sussex[2] (his title is hyphenated but his surname is not). Malloch Brown was previously at the World Bank (1994–1999), the Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme (1999–2005) and briefly United Nations Deputy Secretary-General (April to December 2006). He had previously worked at the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (1979–1983). He is also a former journalist for The Economist, development specialist, and communications consultant. He has served as Chair of the Royal African Society,[3] among other non-governmental and private sector roles, such as membership of the Executive Committee of the International Crisis Group. "

[Baron von Lotsov]

You're often on the ball.  I forget stuff a lot, but thought a summary of the money cycle is interesting.  As for contract, we must be careful about 'conspiracy'.  Not because people never conspire, which they do all the time, but because expectation is another explanation.  Any government that uses certain firms for the green tech will know that by doing so, the firms are likely to donate in future in order to keep the cycle going.  I can be a kind of unspoken agreement.

The crazy B started the business in protest in our town, amongst other places, but I believe it was our town which was the kind of epicentre, even though she was living in Stroud. She got funding from the National Lottery to set up something called Transition Town. Now at this time I used to read our local rag each week. I know this sounds crazy, but I was simply trying to keep up with the proles on day-today goings on in this town, and the local rag was once a decent paper which had been going for about 200 years. Like all of these decent papers, it got bought up, and I seem to recall it was the Mirror Group, or if not it was some other huge media corporation which bought thousands of "local papers"(sic) and things began to change.



It became a propaganda rag rather than informative. Now all of a sudden from out of the blue we were getting almost weekly reports on the latest exciting things Transition Town were doing. There were local meetings, workshops as they call them, and all manner of activity, and each thing they did was another article for the paper, and then in the What's On guide it there was a Transition Town event in each issue. They often made the front page too. One started to wonder why this was, given that there are many other local people in this town that promote things, and they would maybe expect no more than one mention, i.e. an article introducing their new group say. So unless you were utterly stupid you would have to ask, why were they sponsored in such a way? who were they? For a long time I thought it was a local group, because all activity was around here and the neighbouring towns. They were very busy and had many followers. You might like to do some internet research on transition town as this was her baby, and the same pattern occurred as it did with ER, only this time it has shifted from local (corporate) press sponsorship to the BBC. TT appears to be a pilot programme. a kind of local test market for potential bigger sponsorship. Now it has shifted up another gear. This gear is the international one. They used to funnel the money through Soros, but I see it is now Getty.