PLAN B to fight Covid virus brought in from Friday

Started by Barry, December 08, 2021, 07:07:14 PM

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Sheepy

Quote from: Scott777 on December 08, 2021, 07:44:11 PM
For the new measures.

I would imagine the nudge unit will have planned a circle jerk; I can see one from here.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

T00ts

Quote from: Scott777 on December 08, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
Ok, so you think they are not lying, then what is your explanation?
It's easy look at the graph. Why do you need an explanation?

Scott777

Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: srb7677 on December 08, 2021, 07:24:30 PM
What could the motives be that unite dictatorships and democracies, left wing leaders and right wing ones, if not genuine attempts to minimise the virus? If it is all lies,on a global scale, in which every kind of leader is simultaneously complicit, what is the motive that could unite dictators and democrats, socialists, liberals, and conservatives? Those insisting it is all lies need to offer credible reasons and motives as to why we are all being lied to globally by leaders and elites who include sworn enemies of each other. In the absence of that we simply have to believe the obvious...that diverse leaders are taking similar actions against a similar threat, ie the virus.

Errrrm, money and power.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

papasmurf

Quote from: Scott777 on December 08, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
Ok, so you think they are not lying, then what is your explanation?
You are gullible?
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Scott777

Quote from: T00ts on December 08, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
You are buying lies and conspiracy to the detriment of everyone. 

Ok, so you think they are not lying, then what is your explanation?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

T00ts

Quote from: Barry on December 08, 2021, 07:24:16 PM
Did you hear him say there has been a rapid increase in hospitalisations. It's a lie.
I don't see that as a lie look at the graph.

srb7677

Quote from: T00ts on December 08, 2021, 07:10:56 PM
I'm sorry Barry but how are you in any position to make that statement? I cannot believe that they are doing any of this for the fun of it.
Exactly. Most other governments around the world, whether left or right, democratic or authoritarian, are taking similar actions. What could the motives be that unite dictatorships and democracies, left wing leaders and right wing ones, if not genuine attempts to minimise the virus? If it is all lies,on a global scale, in which every kind of leader is simultaneously complicit, what is the motive that could unite dictators and democrats, socialists, liberals, and conservatives? Those insisting it is all lies need to offer credible reasons and motives as to why we are all being lied to globally by leaders and elites who include sworn enemies of each other. In the absence of that we simply have to believe the obvious...that diverse leaders are taking similar actions against a similar threat, ie the virus.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Barry

Quote from: T00ts on December 08, 2021, 07:10:56 PM
I'm sorry Barry but how are you in any position to make that statement? I cannot believe that they are doing any of this for the fun of it.
Did you hear him say there has been a rapid increase in hospitalisations. It's a lie.

† The end is nigh †

papasmurf

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

Omicron: What are the new Plan B rules for England?

Published49 minutes ago


The government has announced new Covid rules for England, in response to concern over the Omicron variant.
It says people should work from home where possible, and will have to show their Covid status for entry to many venues.

What are the new measures for England?

From Friday 10 December, face coverings will be mandatory for many indoor public venues including theatres and cinemas, as well as in shops and on public transport. Exceptions will be made for singing, exercise, and hospitality settings.

From Monday 13 December, people should work from home "if they can".

From Wednesday 15 December people will need to show their NHS Covid Pass - or a negative lateral flow test - to gain entry to:


  • Nightclubs
  • Indoor seated venues with more than 500 people
  • Unseated outdoor venues with more than 4,000 people
  • Any venue with more than 10,000 people


This piece is currently being updated





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T00ts

Quote from: Scott777 on December 08, 2021, 07:15:25 PM
OMG, how many more times.  Did you forget the money and power they make from testing and vaccines and passports?
How many more times? You are buying lies and conspiracy to the detriment of everyone. Why? Because you don't care about anyone but your theories.

Scott777

Quote from: srb7677 on December 08, 2021, 07:13:56 PM
Your suspicions that it is all lies would be more convincing if you could offer credible reasons for the supposed lies which also explain why most other governments in the world - whatever their complexion - are doing the same. Thus far I have not seen any such globally compelling motives that don't look like the most rabid conspiracy theorist bollocks. Which is why some of us struggle to take your objections seriously as things stand.

Errr, money and power.  I know it sound crazy, to think politicians are dishonest and like money and power, right?  🤣
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: T00ts on December 08, 2021, 07:10:56 PM
I'm sorry Barry but how are you in any position to make that statement? I cannot believe that they are doing any of this for the fun of it.

OMG, how many more times.  Did you forget the money and power they make from testing and vaccines and passports?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

srb7677

Quote from: Barry on December 08, 2021, 07:07:14 PM
Boris has said we will need a Covid pass from the NHS to go to certain venues. Face coverings will become mandatory (legal requirement) for those who are not exempt.

I'm just waiting for that freedom which comes from being vaccinated. What a bunch of liars. There's no emergency now.
Your suspicions that it is all lies would be more convincing if you could offer credible reasons for the supposed lies which also explain why most other governments in the world - whatever their complexion - are doing the same. Thus far I have not seen any such globally compelling motives that don't look like the most rabid conspiracy theorist bollocks. Which is why some of us struggle to take your objections seriously as things stand.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

T00ts

Quote from: Barry on December 08, 2021, 07:07:14 PM
Boris has said we will need a Covid pass from the NHS to go to certain venues. Face coverings will become mandatory (legal requirement) for those who are not exempt.

I'm just waiting for that freedom which comes from being vaccinated. What a bunch of liars. There's no emergency now.
I'm sorry Barry but how are you in any position to make that statement? I cannot believe that they are doing any of this for the fun of it.