liz truss to take over from lord frost as eu negotiator

[Thomas]

No, Thomas, just to be clear, I do not want Liz Truss as PM. If it has to be a woman, Penny Mordaunt is the most attractive prospect.

ah ok barry. I did wonder. As streetwalker pointed out the other day as well , about her being a remoaner at one point. That on top of what i have already said about her makes me question why some in the tory party seem to think she is pm material.

[Barry]

No, Thomas, just to be clear, I do not want Liz Truss as PM. If it has to be a woman, Penny Mordaunt is the most attractive prospect. 

[Thomas]

Apparently Liz Truss has taken over as preferred to replace Boris.

In all seriousness barry do you rate her? I have to say she comes across as another theresa may to me , clueless and indecisive .

I wouldnt write off johnson just yet , but if he does go , and she replaces him , once again , i dont think it bodes well for either the tory party , or brexit.

Like theresa may before her , she comes across as a poor public speaker and unable to think quick on her feet in the fast pace of political exchanges and arguments.

Is this yet another miserbale little tory party compromise between warring factions like may was?

[Barry]

Apparently Liz Truss has taken over as preferred to replace Boris.

[Thomas]

The Brexit vote was a U.K. vote. It would only have to move a couple of points in England and Wales. And you would have a perfect Fifty Fifty. That is my point. And if Brexit , doesn't  get some wheels in the right direction soon , that will happen. It won't be the reason for the Tories being allowed to continue  to F—k up the running of this country.

Good old and the labour parties predictions lmfao.

Here was their most recent one...






We were talking about labour socialist sex pest lord reid on another thread, and i like this quote attributed to him.

The labour party are full of demagogues , clueless , leaderless , with policies 15 years out of date.

[Baff]

I'm relieved to see that Liz Truss talks the talk.
But does she walk the walk?

Time will reveal all.

[srb7677]

..and gibraltar , which isnt part of the uk. I was specifically talking about england though , which as a country , might only make up 40 % of the land of these islands , but which has 80 % of the popualtion.

This is the significant part , as england makes up 82 % of the seats at westminster , the majority of which represent leave which is why labour have a problem Getting elected , as they need to win in england to win at westminster which is my point.

Further , you have a problem in scotland , where you are currently on 16 % of the vote , where half the scottish electorate wont vote labour as they support indy , and you are squabbling about in the dirt for the support of the unionist vote with the libs and tories.

A couple of opinion polls mid way in a parliamentary cycle dont win general elections two years from any vote , and those two big elephants in the room will face you when it comes to any vote.

This picture never gets old , and long may it haunt labour...

I have just screenshotted that Starmer pic and posted it on my own Facebook page, which has been known to be read by many comrades and former comrades.  And that is indeed the problem that Starmer has. The Tories are going to make sure the public are all too aware of Starmer's form on the issue, whilst lefty elements like me will be all over social media pointing out what an untrustworthy liar he has proved himself to be already.

And you don't have to be Scottish or a political expert to understand that New Labour revisited is going to go down in Scotland like a turd on the carpet. Every Joe and his grandad can see that except the twerps running the party. They are going to lose votes to the Greens in England too, let alone in Scotland.

As for the temporary poll bounce, very little of that is the result of increased support for Labour. It is merely a reflection of the fact that the Tories at the moment are demonstrating themselves to be far more shit and corrupt. If the polling persists in this manner there will be no election anytime soon and the Tories will ditch Johnson. Then the polling lead for Labour will collapse, based as it is on nothing more concrete than being a bit less shit than the government.

[Thomas]

With 22 labour and a mere 7 greens in the Scottish devolved house, I think the greens have had a sudden outbreak of David Steelitis.

Sure john , but i think he is talking about labours continued failure to revive under starmer , with polling around 16 % , and the greens not too far behind.

Add into the fact the scottish greens are pro independence , while labour are anti , labour under starmer are on the wrong side of public opinion in scotland just as they are in england with brexit , and the greens feel they might be able to take advantage of that.

In the Westminster parliament which after all is the only one that really matters they seem to have a representation outage....

John the scottish green party is a seperate party from the english greens .

And the 50% gas price hike will put paid to any future success. Making their barking mad energy ideas cost effective by racking up the price of current time served effective systems only works in the parts of the brain addled by the Thunberg cancer.

Dont disagree. Andrew neil has already pointed out the madness of "green " policies across europe at the minute , where the germans are closing nuclear power plants while being at the mercy of relying on russia for gas , on top of the general energy problems across the continent.

[johnofgwent]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/im-not-any-rush-green-25772652?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

That bad for starmers new labour , even the greens are targeting them to overtake labour in scotland.

With 22 labour and a mere 7 greens in the Scottish devolved house, I think the greens have had a sudden outbreak of David Steelitis.

In the Westminster parliament which after all is the only one that really matters they seem to have a representation outage....

And the 50% gas price hike will put paid to any future success. Making their barking mad energy ideas cost effective by racking up the price of current time served effective systems only works in the parts of the brain addled by the Thunberg cancer.

[Thomas]

 





https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/im-not-any-rush-green-25772652?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

That bad for starmers new labour , even the greens are targeting them to overtake labour in scotland.

[Thomas]

The Brexit vote was a U.K. vote.

..and gibraltar , which isnt part of the uk. I was specifically talking about england though , which as a country , might only make up 40 % of the land of these islands , but which has 80 % of the popualtion.

This is the significant part , as england makes up 82 % of the seats at westminster , the majority of which represent leave which is why labour have a problem Getting elected , as they need to win in england to win at westminster which is my point.

Further , you have a problem in scotland , where you are currently on 16 % of the vote , where half the scottish electorate wont vote labour as they support indy , and you are squabbling about in the dirt for the support of the unionist vote with the libs and tories.

A couple of opinion polls mid way in a parliamentary cycle dont win general elections two years from any vote , and those two big elephants in the room will face you when it comes to any vote.

This picture never gets old , and long may it haunt labour...

[Good old]

Didnt you read the part where i said 55 % of your country england wanted brexit ( i acknowledge i was slightly out from memory it was 53 %)?

Its not my fault if you can't distinguish between the uk referendum result , and englands which is what i was talking about.

The Brexit vote was a U.K. vote. It would only have to move a couple of points in England and Wales. And you would have a perfect Fifty Fifty. That is my point. And if Brexit , doesn't  get some wheels in the right direction soon , that will happen. It won't be the reason for the Tories being allowed to continue  to F—k up the running of this country.

[Thomas]

The rubbish is your assertion 55% wanted Brexit. 51.5 at most to 48.5 . Is what it actually was. This Is marginal .any constituency with that result would be a marginal and likely to change at the drop of the hat.

Didnt you read the part where i said 55 % of your country england wanted brexit ( i acknowledge i was slightly out from memory it was 53 %)?

Its not my fault if you cant distinguish between the uk referendum result , and englands which is what i was talking about.

[Good old]

Rubbish. From what i have been told ,the english didnt want to swap the Eu for anything. They simply didnt want to be part of it , for better or worse.

It will sink in with your labour party eventually , otherwise they are going to be toast.

Two year or thereabouts till another UKGE , andi confidently predict brexit will play a large part in labour losing votes again.  Starmer cannot shake off his anti democratic remain baggage , which is a large problem when 55 % of your country england voted for brexit and most wont tolerate any sort of return .

The rubbish is your assertion 55% wanted Brexit. 51.5 at most to 48.5 . Is what it actually was. This Is marginal .any constituency with that result would be a marginal and likely to change at the drop of the hat.

[Thomas]