Why those parties have made me angry

[Barry]

A letter to the papers:

[Sheepy]

What an idiot Smurphy voting for the rules they never believed in anyway. The plebs won't know the difference anyway, they are cowering under their beds, let's have a party. We can all have our fingers in a big fat pie at the same time yummy, meanwhile we don't have to do a thing we said we would. Break out the champers and coke. 

[papasmurf]

[Thomas]

i will say one thing for lord adonis , he certainly says what we all know the laour party are thinking. At least he has always nailed his colours to the mast regarding brexit unlike the reptile starmer.

[Thomas]

It's simple really , or would be for most people

Whats simple...criticising the we can wait tribe for doing the same thing as your advocating?

usual hypocrisy and double dealing we have all come to love and expect from you good old.

[Thomas]

One minute you say Labour are bad they did not want Brexit,

I didnt say that at all. There was a referendum in 2016 , which we all took part in , and which the anti demcortic labour party didnt want to hold at all , and the uk and gibraltar voted leave.

Labour , and starmer did everything in their power to piss off the english and stop brexit being implemented , even though they stood on a platform to enact brexit in 2017.

Anyone can see you and your party are liars and spinners of truth and half truths.

And made it clear to the English, they didn't want Brexit.

too bad. The public in england didnt agree with you , and it will be your undoing in the next election mark my words.

And then you sayLabour knowingly conned the Scots into thinking that they would not have Brexit.

where did i say that? Quote it?

, as long as it doesn't alter the money flow from Westminster.

The money doesnt flow from westmisnter.

From 2012 to 2017 for example . scotland raised 950 off billion in rveneue , and westmisnter collected scotlsnd money , then haded back 450 billion of that for the scot gov to spend.

We dont want half our own money back , we want to keep it all , and wether red or blue tories are in power , it will always be the same story for scotland , where we subsidiese england and store englands nuclear weapons next door to our biggest city.

But blame Labour, because the fact that for the majority of two hundred years it was Tories that ruled Scotland.

i do blame labour , the tories havent lied about what they stand for , meanwhile labour stood on tickets for example to end the house of lords and enact home rule , and never once acheived either the many times they were in power.

you lied to us time and again , the the site of scotland finally waking up post 2014 to your shower was a site to behold.

Hopefully we can keep the boot firmly on labours kneck until we get indy.

[Good old]

so if this is your philosphy why are you mocking steve and the we can wait tribe when you yourslf are advcating it as sound political thinking( which it isnt necessarily).

It's simple really , or would be for most people. It's only sound if there is a real possibility that your opportunity is well within reach. Starmers is. Steve's, just isn't. In particular if he thinks forming a new leftist party will bring the 
Tories out of Downing Street. 

[Good old]

labour wants a lot of things that arent compatible with the public view , hence why they fail so miserably at election time, putting ideology before common sense.
what a stupid thing to ask. So what ?

the so what about unionism is a main ingredient behind labours fall from grace as the main party in scotland , and why you are doomed to irrelevance .

i would say its a pretty big so what and a large elehpant in labours room.
you f**king did , and every scot knows it .We have discussed it ad naseum. You stood shoulder to shoulder with the tories and lied to the scottish people through your teeth , and were hammered for it in the next election in scotland and subsequently.Prominent labour figures made massive statments and lied through thier teeth over things they knew they couldnt either control or had labour been in power would not in any circumstance enact.

Labour only recently for example made massive claims in the scottish media about the snp failing scotland over employment law issues when everyone laughed and pointed out labour fought tooth and nail behind the scenes to stop employment law being devolved to scotlands parliament.

You can't keep hiding behind blaming the tories for all the ills of union , when everyeone can see labours part in stabbing scotland repeatedly in the back over many years.

Hence why the scottish wont vote for you.

howling. We dont need to regurgitate all labours lies from 2014 to see the absolute bullshit they spout in your own country. You were that afraid of democracy in the run up to the brexit vote milliband wouldnt even agree to supporting a brexit vote , to the amusement of the tories and ridicule by the liberals  .

One minute you say Labour are bad they did not want Brexit,. And made it clear to the English, they didn't want Brexit. And then you sayLabour knowingly conned the Scots into thinking that they would not have Brexit. What are you on? Labour didn't want to leave the EU end of. The Tories knew they were going to have that referendum . Labour couldn't make promises on the Tories behalf. they told Scots they would not take them out of the EU, neither would they because they were not in power.  And please all Scots knew that . The  Tories conned everyone as usual. What are you on? I ask again. 
The referendum showed Scotland, wants Scot's politics, as long as it doesn't alter the money flow from Westminster. That's fair enough, until the next referendum, and who knows. It's English politics from Westminster that is rejected Tory and Labour. But blame Labour, because the fact that for the majority of two hundred years it was Tories that ruled Scotland. Nothing your spin machine can not overcome though is it Thomas.?

[Thomas]

So you pointed it out. Even you must know being patient waiting your moment in a two year period is completely different to waiting forever for a ship that is not coming. And present events prove the point perfectly, he can wait and pick his best moment he won't have to wait long.

so if this is your philosphy why are you mocking steve and the we can wait tribe when you yourslf are advcating it as sound political thinking( which it isnt necessarily).

[Thomas]

Labour wants Scotland in the Union , Labour wants the U.K. to continue to exist.

labour wants a lot of things that arent compatible with the public view , hence why they fail so miserably at election time, putting ideology before common sense.

So what?

what a stupid thing to ask. So what ?

the so what about unionism is a main ingredient behind labours fall from grace as the main party in scotland , and why you are doomed to irrelevance .

i would say its a pretty big so what and a large elehpant in labours room.

Labour did not con Scotland over Brexit , or independence.

you f**king did , and every scot knows it .We have discussed it ad naseum. You stood shoulder to shoulder with the tories and lied to the scottish people through your teeth , and were hammered for it in the next election in scotland and subsequently.

Labour didn't know the Tories planned to do just that.

Prominent labour figures made massive statments and lied through thier teeth over things they knew they couldnt either control or had labour been in power would not in any circumstance enact.

Labour only recently for example made massive claims in the scottish media about the snp failing scotland over employment law issues when everyone laughed and pointed out labour fought tooth and nail behind the scenes to stop employment law being devolved to scotlands parliament.

You can't keep hiding behind blaming the tories for all the ills of union , when everyeone can see labours part in stabbing scotland repeatedly in the back over many years.

Hence why the scottish wont vote for you.

And if Labour, would have stayed in the Union, they didn't lie  to Scotland, because they would have stayed in the Union. Another prime example of your blatant spin I'm afraid . As for England we will see , the pain is already setting in. I say for the umpteenth time brexit has to work, and at the moment it don't look so good.

howling. We dont need to regurgitate all labours lies from 2014 to see the absolute bullshit they spout in your own country. You were that afraid of democracy in the run up to the brexit vote milliband wouldnt even agree to supporting a brexit vote , to the amusement of the tories and ridicule by the liberals  .

[Good old]

dodge. You were having a go at the" we can wait tribe ", and im pointing out to you that has been your motto about starmers labour these past two years.

So you pointed it out. Even you must know being patient waiting your moment in a two year period is completely different to waiting forever for a ship that is not coming. And present events prove the point perfectly, he can wait and pick his best moment he won't have to wait long.

[Good old]

Its a bad thing as far as the labour parties long and inglorious history is concerned. labour need us to forget thier past history , in scotland jumping into bed wae the tories to keep scotland in your union and doing thier dirty work , and in england , you need the english to forget you disrespected thier brexit vote.

Labour wants Scotland in the Union , Labour wants the U.K. to continue to exist. So what? Labour did not con Scotland over Brexit , or independence. Labour didn't know the Tories planned to do just that. By promising to stay in the EU , and then setting up the means to do just the opposite. And if Labour, would have stayed in the Union, they didn't lie  to Scotland, because they would have stayed in the Union. Another prime example of your blatant spin I'm afraid . As for England we will see , the pain is already setting in. I say for the umpteenth time brexit has to work, and at the moment it don't look so good.

[Thomas]

Two years to wait for an election ain't a life time or didn't you know

dodge. You were having a go at the" we can wait tribe ", and im pointing out to you that has been your motto about starmers labour these past two years.

[Thomas]

A long memory is a good thing Thomas, yours is no better than anyone else's. Like most people you only pretend to retain the bits that suit you, but they are the only bits you want.  And here you go again this piece is your take on the situation, it's called spin, it's your spin. If you believe your own spin so be it ,but it is spin. Truth as Thomas, see,s it.

Its a bad thing as far as the labour parties long and inglorious history is concerned. labour need us to forget thier past history , in scotland jumping into bed wae the tories to keep scotland in your union and doing thier dirty work , and in england , you need the english to forget you disrespected thier brexit vote.

[Good old]

Says the man who has sat and said lets sit and wait for starmer to tumble into power these last two years.

Two years to wait for an election ain't a life time or didn't you know