Boris had a 20% lead

[Thomas]

If I've learned one thing about the tories in my 46 years of eligibility to vote is their ability to swiftly remove the electorally cripled, a skill labour totally lack.

i think boris will survive. The stories of boris killed my 98 year old aunt with a bottle of pinot noir arent really cutting the mustard. The screamers who are trying to have him removed are the same screamers who have been screaming about him at every turn since brexit and his coronation as tory leader.

His fellow tories arent pissed off with him over partygate , they are pissed off with covid restrictions and boris going green.

You are right about labvour though . Labour do what they have done time and again , cheer on duds like starmer and millband until it finally dawns on them after election day when they have lost that their latest hero is no good , and its back to the drawing board.

Im not sure any conclusions can be made with any accuracy john two years from any meangfull election. The cooncil elections are notorious for giving the ruling party in government a slap in the wrist so i think the tories have thier eyes o nthe bigger picture , and i wish the snp did too.

[Thomas]

You're forgetting one crucial point, who the alternative is, Starmer!! And no Tory will vote for him.

or anyone who truly supports scot indy , brexit , left wingers who firmly believe in socialism and not red toryism , etc etc.

Starmer has many issues to deal with his hero blair didnt have to confront back in the old days when politics was slightly more simple for the brothers and sisters.

I will be shocked if labour win outright. Im still betting the tories win , labour are again  hamstrung on the above issues and more , and the best they can hope is a hung parliament unles good old and his mate starmer manage to bore the electorate to death and get a very low turnout , in which case good olds face should light up .

[Thomas]

And you forget they don't have to. Just don't vote Tory.

you would love that good old wouldnt you? Another labour party victory off the back of a low turnout.

what did blair manage in 2001....... 412 seats and victory off the back of something like less than 20 % of the electorate and the lowest post war turnout in uk political history?

Im sure come election time the message will be getting sent out in both scotland and england to get the vote out to stop new labour. Unlike in 2001 , when labour had the none of the above vote through the roof , and the so called left had no where else to go , feelings are still running high on many political issues that labour cant deal with , so it should be an interesting election when the next ukge comes around.

Knowing sir keir , he will somehow snatch defeat from the jaws of victory while blowing both feet off in the process. You will just have to contain your excitement till then.

[johnofgwent]

To be honest, what they say in public and what they think and plan in private are often not the same thing.

They circled the wagons around Thatcher - or appeared to - but they still took her down. Johnson's days are numbered.

Yes, the only reason they form a circle is to allow their inside assasination team to do the job while the spectators are admiring the whooping and the wagon driving....

They will send an inside team to take the scalp for to let the opposition the PR prize of admitting it was they who administered the killing blow because none in their own ranks could bring themselves to do it would be the end of their donations from "entrepreneurs" accustomed to that modus operandii.

If I've learned one thing about the tories in my 46 years of eligibility to vote is their ability to swiftly remove the electorally cripled, a skill labour totally lack.

[Thomas]

I think the Labour, party will have to be bloody. quick to beat the SNP to free giro,s.

Well i dont know ,when they were last in charge of glesga city cooncil , they bankrupted the city so that cooncil tax didnt even cover labours debt interest .

As for giros , most of us expect a wee bit of stealing from politicians , but new labour take it to new heights as we have seen in glasgow and liverpool.

You need to tone things down good old instead of spending other peoples money like water going through a sieve.

[Good old]

Well i for one am looking forward to when you english remainers get your man starmer elected , england is taken back into the european empire in ball and chains with a slap on the wrist , and sir keir and the champagne socialists come up and put gold kerbs on the govan road while handing out free giros for all , with a telling off about independence and how we jocks are very naughty for not giving the labour party their proper due in voting fodder .

I think the Labour, party will have to be bloody. quick to beat the SNP to free giro,s.

[Thomas]

Doesn't that make him your kind of man?

Well i for one am looking forward to when you english remainers get your man starmer elected , england is taken back into the european empire in ball and chains with a slap on the wrist , and sir keir and the champagne socialists come up and put gold kerbs on the govan road while handing out free giros for all , with a telling off about independence and how we jocks are very naughty for not giving the labour party their proper due in voting fodder .

[Borchester]

Doesn't that make him your kind of man?

Definitely a plus in my book.

But I want someone more interesting than me to run the country

[HDQQ]

There is no evidence that Sir Keir likes much of anything other than being a glum bugger

Doesn't that make him your kind of man?

[Sheepy]

Critical incident declared as 500+ migrants land in UK in 24 hours (msn.com)
Boris still in hiding or just partying?
They are not Migrants.

[Borchester]

Cummings should never have been allowed to walk out of 10 Downing Street with that large cardboard box.

Or Boris allowed in with that crate of plonk for the Christmas party

[papasmurf]

I don't think you appreciate the degree of sheer hatred for the Berk with the Hair.

I don't want to see Starmer succeed but Boris is just taking the piss and thus really can't be allowed to blow over. Boris should have crucified Cummings properly ages ago

Cummings should never have been allowed to walk out of 10 Downing Street with that large cardboard box.

[srb7677]

The way they are pulling the wagons up around him, it doesn't seem that to many in the party quiet get it.

To be honest, what they say in public and what they think and plan in private are often not the same thing.

They circled the wagons around Thatcher - or appeared to - but they still took her down. Johnson's days are numbered.

[Good old]

I don't think you appreciate the degree of sheer hatred for the Berk with the Hair.

I don't want to see Starmer succeed but Boris is just taking the piss and thus really can't be allowed to blow over. Boris should have crucified Cummings properly ages ago

The way they are pulling the wagons up around him, it doesn't seem that to many in the party quiet get it.

[johnofgwent]

This is just a short term blip and we are 3 years from a GE.
Local elections will be a big test.

I don't think you appreciate the degree of sheer hatred for the Berk with the Hair.

I don't want to see Starmer succeed but Boris is just taking the piss and thus really can't be allowed to blow over. Boris should have crucified Cummings properly ages ago