Rishi for PM?

[B0ycey]

Christ, we haven't even had the vote of no confidence on the clown yet and we are talking about coups. Staying out of Johnsons clusterfuck is not plotting against him T00ts. I doubt Sunak will put his name in the hat and just back Truss given he seems keen on economics only anyway. So you don't need to worry. As I said to you yesterday, anyone who backs the clown will have their words against them throughout their entire career. EVERY SINGLE TORY should run for the hills when the camera is running and lets be Frank giving the clown the bare minimum support is just common sense when Johnson is sinking like the Titanic anyway. Don't read too much into this.

[Sheepy]

Why are those who fought for Brexit so quiet? 

Probably because they know the jig is up, the public have been taken for complete fools yet again by the Westminster party and the civil service, they have two years and unless they can turn it into a remain victory, which they won't it is curtains. 

[Streetwalker]

It looks as though those jumping ship now are already in Sunak's coven and no doubt expect to crawl back into Downing ST when he takes over. This shows the man for what he is.

Indeed , he hasn't got the front to challenge BJ directly but gets others to undermine him in his stead . The man is a rodent 

[Good old]

Does anyone else look at the situation in No10 and see a coup not only by Rishi but also Remainers? Look at it carefully. Rishi has only been in politics since 2010 and his experience has been at the Treasury. He has no International experience or as far as I can find any other department. Yet here he is held up as the next big thing. Let's get some sense.

If he becomes PM his focus will be on the money. He fears loss of trade with the EU. Will the remain lobby persuade him that for financial reasons the EU should have their way on most arguments? I keep saying I have no confidence in him and it looks very much as if he is leading a lot of what is happening. Boris has been badly advised  - who by? Who are these people really who are leaving with great drama? Are they ones who imagine that they will be back if Rishi gets his way? Does he really think he is going to walk in without a vote?Come on people let's look wider than just 'get rid of Boris'! Why are those who fought for Brexit so quiet?

It is politics , so people are  always going to be angling for positions of more influence, and Rishi hasn't reached the office chancellor , to not want the big job.
But there is only one person , under scrutiny for his running of Downing Street , in general . And it's Boris,. The fact that Boris, chose to indulge in basic gutter politics in the house was his decision. To distance from that slur, is purely a matter of integrity,. What many of those standing by Boris, don't seem to get is they all to often are defending the indefensible  which in the eye of the public is tarnishing their own positions.

[papasmurf]

 Why are those who fought for Brexit so quiet?

Because they now see the gravity of their mistake.

[T00ts]

Does anyone else look at the situation in No10 and see a coup not only by Rishi but also Remainers? Look at it carefully. Rishi has only been in politics since 2010 and his experience has been at the Treasury. He has no International experience or as far as I can find any other department. Yet here he is held up as the next big thing. Let's get some sense. 

If he becomes PM his focus will be on the money. He fears loss of trade with the EU. Will the remain lobby persuade him that for financial reasons the EU should have their way on most arguments? I keep saying I have no confidence in him and it looks very much as if he is leading a lot of what is happening. Boris has been badly advised  - who by? Who are these people really who are leaving with great drama? Are they ones who imagine that they will be back if Rishi gets his way? Does he really think he is going to walk in without a vote?Come on people let's look wider than just 'get rid of Boris'! Why are those who fought for Brexit so quiet? 

[srb7677]

And I think you need the services of specsavers.

For what reason? You haven't given any. You certainly have not responded to anything I actually said with an argued point about why it was wrong.

Besides which,  if you really cannot see that Rishi Sunak would be a big improvement on Johnson after all we have seen these past three months, if I do find myself in the queue at specsavers, I expect I'll be seeing you there too.

[Sheepy]

I haven't said it will cure anything. Johnson is very much like Trump, perhaps not as bad, but in regards to what he represents. He is destroying the credibility of the UK. He isn't liked in Europe and the butt of Putins jokes. He has no respect from the opposition and except Thomas, isn't liked in Scotland. He is a risk to the union which I guess is important to some and has no respect from the nation in terms of his lying anyway including the rest of the UK. So sure, his replacement won't solve everything. But it moves the country forward. So baby steps Sheepy. The Socialism revolution comes in the next generation, not this one.

The socialist revolution is pie in the sky taken over long ago by the woke and the global cartel. Long before any of that happens you will be completely enslaved by the globalists telling you having nothing is good and all for the greater good while they control everything. But no doubt you know better and will sign on the dotted line at the first opportunity thinking like the EU is giving you what you want.

[B0ycey]

So you all keep telling me, all over the place, as though it will cure everything, which it won't.

I haven't said it will cure anything. Johnson is very much like Trump, perhaps not as bad, but in regards to what he represents. He is destroying the credibility of the UK. He isn't liked in Europe and the butt of Putins jokes. He has no respect from the opposition and except Thomas, isn't liked in Scotland. He is a risk to the union which I guess is important to some and has no respect from the nation in terms of his lying anyway including the rest of the UK. So sure, his replacement won't solve everything. But it moves the country forward. So baby steps Sheepy. The Socialism revolution comes in the next generation, not this one.

[Sheepy]

Sheepy, I haven't got an affiliation with Labour. I just want Johnson out.

So you all keep telling me, all over the place, as though it will cure everything, which it won't. 

[cromwell]

It has reached a point now where almost any Tory would be better than Boris right now, both for their party, their government, and the nation.

And Rishi has placed himself well. Having avoided being made complicit in defending the indefensible as so many others have, making themselves look like idiots in the process, he is well placed to offer a clean break. No one can turn round and accuse him of defending Bozo's lies later on. And whether deserved or not, he seems to me to be just about the only Tory cabinet minister left who is both known to the public and has a largely intact reputation for competence. Very little of the furore over contracts for crones, industrial scale wastage and fraud, and all that has landed at his door in the public mind. He is just about the only senior cabinet minister who could credibly claim to be able to restore honesty and decency to government and be believed by much of the electorate. I think were he to become leader, and declare a return to high standards of integrity, honesty, and moral conduct, and bring some new blood into the cabinet, ditching those who most clearly might be seen to share the moral taint of Johnson, he could turn things around. Starmer's poll lead could disappear as easily as the morning dew on a hot summer's morning.

And I think you need the services of specsavers.

[B0ycey]

LOL I don't know for what reason you are telling me anyway, it is Corbyn supporters you have to convince back to the Labour party and the chances of that are about nil, they had a look and found out it isn't anything it said it was.

Sheepy, I haven't got an affiliation with Labour. I just want Johnson out.

[srb7677]

It has reached a point now where almost any Tory would be better than Boris right now, both for their party, their government, and the nation.

And Rishi has placed himself well. Having avoided being made complicit in defending the indefensible as so many others have, making themselves look like idiots in the process, he is well placed to offer a clean break. No one can turn round and accuse him of defending Bozo's lies later on. And whether deserved or not, he seems to me to be just about the only Tory cabinet minister left who is both known to the public and has a largely intact reputation for competence. Very little of the furore over contracts for crones, industrial scale wastage and fraud, and all that has landed at his door in the public mind. He is just about the only senior cabinet minister who could credibly claim to be able to restore honesty and decency to government and be believed by much of the electorate. I think were he to become leader, and declare a return to high standards of integrity, honesty, and moral conduct, and bring some new blood into the cabinet, ditching those who most clearly might be seen to share the moral taint of Johnson, he could turn things around. Starmer's poll lead could disappear as easily as the morning dew on a hot summer's morning.

[Sheepy]

I don't know what you forecast . But I always knew he not only wouldn't ,but  In my case knew he couldn't. Live up to his bluster,. I suppose we have to accept it wasn't all a clear cut lie, but then it's never clear cut with him is it.

Nothing in that place is as it seems, maybe people will finally realise it this time. Many already have.

[Sheepy]

just accept his politics are actually aligned to yours and Corbyns aligns to mine.

LOL I don't know for what reason you are telling me anyway, it is Corbyn supporters you have to convince back to the Labour party and the chances of that are about nil, they had a look and found out it isn't anything it said it was.