Brexit Countdown

Started by Barry, October 09, 2019, 09:25:25 PM

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papasmurf

Quote from: Stevlin post_id=11786 time=1577917949 user_id=66
How ironic for a Smurf to claim that the Tories will 'destroy Britain', because of Boris..


The Tories will destroy Britain faster with Boris in charge. For a start just when the government will need every civil servant over the next year Boris is going to slash entire departments. That will effect ALL of government badly.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Stevlin

Ooooooops!!! Those damn radishes!!

Stevlin

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=11716 time=1577870008 user_id=89
Then we are left with that dickhead Boris and the Tories left to destroy Britain.
How ironic for a Smurf to claim that the Tories will 'destroy Britain', because of Boris....when at least Boris, (for all his 'clownish' attributes, unlike Remainers,  has the sense to acknowledge that that it is the stupid, as well as undemocratic  utilisation of an unelected Executive, legislating via an undemocratic political entity that negates the so called 'democratic' governance of the UK.

They don't even have the sense to question why the politburo styled  Executive that is unique to the EU for promoting beneficial trade, can credibly  have any realistic association with their constant bleating of Brexit based doom, when so many non-EU nations are demonstrably managing quite well WITHOUT being members of such a ludicrous political entity.

The fact that the economic record of the EU's undemocratic establishment has illustrated for nigh on 5 decades that it is a useless, and fatuous concept for the so called  promotion of economic growth via the removal of the majority of trade barriers, and which  sensible countries have noted, and continued to illustrate that by the absence of a repeat of such a fatuous concept elsewhere.



RFTA's are more than adequate for promoting economic trading benefit - without removing the democratic element of the governance of a country.

In democratic countries, it the people themselves that are responsible for choosing the policies by which they prefer to be governed - despite the inherent faults with the FPTP system of government as practised in the UK.

Thomas

Quote from: johnofgwent post_id=11783 time=1577911469 user_id=63
and from that moment on, you will have to dig deeper into your pockets to continue the largesse you've enjoyed at our expense.


how so john?



According to every article i have read , the uk will still continue to follow eu rules and pay into it for the rest of this new year during the transition period , and of course the uk government can still ask for a transition period extension right up till the end of june this year ?



So technically its brexit in name only.?





QuoteWhat is the transition period?

Assuming the European Parliament also gives the green light, the UK will formally leave the EU on 31 January with a withdrawal deal.



The UK will enter a period, known as the transition, until 31 December 2020. Mr Johnson has said this date will not be extended.



Although the UK will cease to be an EU member, the trading relationship will remain the same and it will continue to follow the EU's rules, such as accepting rulings from the European Court of Justice.



The transition also means the UK will continue to contribute to the EU's budget for the duration.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50838994">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50838994





In this link it also tells you what the uk will be paying during the transition period and that it may keep contributing to certain eu programmes after the transition period has finished.



https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7886">https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7886">https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7886





and of course the much maligned exit bill , reputed to be around £33 to £ 39 billion from reports



https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8039">https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-8039">https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8039
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

johnofgwent

Quote from: GerryT post_id=11701 time=1577842457 user_id=61
Eh no, the uk leaves end Jan. The transition is after the uk leaves and it's a short period (11 months) when the eu/uk continue the existing relationship to allow talks on a future relationship to start.

But dont be under any illusion, ens of jan the uk is out and brexit is finished. At least there wont be any dickhead UKIP or Brexit party MEPS in the EU, when you leave end of jan the uk will have zero say


and from that moment on, you will have to dig deeper into your pockets to continue the largesse you've enjoyed at our expense.
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

papasmurf

Quote from: GerryT post_id=11701 time=1577842457 user_id=61




But dont be under any illusion, ens of jan the uk is out and brexit is finished. At least there wont be any dickhead UKIP or Brexit party MEPS in the EU, when you leave end of jan the uk will have zero say


Then we are left with that dickhead Boris and the Tories left to destroy Britain.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

GerryT

Quote from: Barry post_id=11663 time=1577804561 user_id=51
This

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/guy-verhofstadt-european-parliament-block-brexit-deal-eu-citizens-rights-video-1344874">//https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/guy-verhofstadt-european-parliament-block-brexit-deal-eu-citizens-rights-video-1344874

Verhofstadt the crazy strikes again.

Like I said, end jan the uk leaves.

Regarding s future deal the UK can decide how close that relationship will be but it will most def be on EU terms. Like that article you linked, if the uk want a close relationship then the EU will outline its terms. But if the UK doesn't like it then the uk can decide no, no bullying or control or influence. Just simply the uk making some big boy decisions

GerryT

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=11661 time=1577803156 user_id=89
No it doesn't there is a one year transition period.


Eh no, the uk leaves end Jan. The transition is after the uk leaves and it's a short period (11 months) when the eu/uk continue the existing relationship to allow talks on a future relationship to start.

But dont be under any illusion, ens of jan the uk is out and brexit is finished. At least there wont be any dickhead UKIP or Brexit party MEPS in the EU, when you leave end of jan the uk will have zero say

Borchester

Quote from: Nick post_id=11684 time=1577816019 user_id=73
Yes it does, the UK leaves on Jan 31st. The transition period is to agree a deal and has nothing to do with the WA.


True, but it is New Year. Let Pappy enjoy his dream of a few extra months in the EU  :D
Algerie Francais !

Nick

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=11661 time=1577803156 user_id=89
No it doesn't there is a one year transition period.


Yes it does, the UK leaves on Jan 31st. The transition period is to agree a deal and has nothing to do with the WA.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Barry

Quote from: GerryT post_id=11659 time=1577802213 user_id=61
?  What do you mean the EU approving the deal, the UK leaves on the 31st Jan unless the UK asks for another extension. It's in no way contingent on the EU agreeing a deal.

The WA has been agreed, has Johnson made changes to the deal he's agreed ?

This

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/guy-verhofstadt-european-parliament-block-brexit-deal-eu-citizens-rights-video-1344874">//https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/guy-verhofstadt-european-parliament-block-brexit-deal-eu-citizens-rights-video-1344874

Verhofstadt the crazy strikes again.
† The end is nigh †

papasmurf

Quote from: GerryT post_id=11659 time=1577802213 user_id=61
?  What do you mean the EU approving the deal, the UK leaves on the 31st Jan


No it doesn't there is a one year transition period.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

GerryT

Quote from: Barry post_id=11657 time=1577801301 user_id=51
Just one month away. 31 days. Assuming the EU Parliament approve the deal. If not, we leave without one.

 ?  What do you mean the EU approving the deal, the UK leaves on the 31st Jan unless the UK asks for another extension. It's in no way contingent on the EU agreeing a deal.

The WA has been agreed, has Johnson made changes to the deal he's agreed ?

Barry

Just one month away. 31 days. Assuming the EU Parliament approve the deal. If not, we leave without one.
† The end is nigh †

Sheepy

Quote from: Nick post_id=11465 time=1577489732 user_id=73
And out of the 190,000 how many were in the public domain? This guy will be made an example of I feel.


Ah well apparently he keeps chickens but has no idea how to protect them against foxes,so he beats them to death with baseball bats while wearing the wife's kimono.Which oddly enough,everybody on twitter needs telling about it.While spouting come and get me if you dare.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!