EU report claims Brits 'didn't know what they were doing' when voting for Brexit

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Nick

Quote from: GerryT on May 02, 2022, 02:48:57 PM
That's very dramatic. Reality is you joined the EU freely, well after begging a couple of times to join, you were far from an inclusive member, and then you left freely, screaming and shouting. All the drama. Now the screaming is about how unfair the brexit deal was/is, the deal the UK signed freely. Maybe resetting expectations of reality is needed.
We didn't join the EU voluntarily, we were never asked, and Major did his best to seal us in as hard as possible. I can't count how many times you've been told this. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: GerryT on May 03, 2022, 05:51:35 PM
The question was, why don't the UK control its borders when that was one of the key reasons for Brexit ?

As for why people are caught in the trap of Russian Gas, that's because most people don't have their own Gas so they buy from Russia. That's not related to what the UK is doing, the UK isn't tied to Russian Gas, so why don't you control your borders ?
Well Gerry you witter on we have no control where's that of the eu on fundamentals like energy so dont be pointing and sniggering at us.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

GerryT

Quote from: cromwell on May 02, 2022, 07:01:00 PM
Oh don't talk cobblers Gerry,most of the eu shackled to sputum gas,why is that?


The question was, why don't the UK control its borders when that was one of the key reasons for Brexit ?

As for why people are caught in the trap of Russian Gas, that's because most people don't have their own Gas so they buy from Russia. That's not related to what the UK is doing, the UK isn't tied to Russian Gas, so why don't you control your borders ?


cromwell

Quote from: GerryT on May 02, 2022, 02:33:16 PM
We have a say, just not supreme leaders.
How come the UK doesn't control it's borders, I thought that was a key objective of Brexit.
Oh don't talk cobblers Gerry,most of the eu shackled to sputum gas,why is that?

 
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

GerryT

Quote from: Streetwalker on May 02, 2022, 03:55:03 PM
We do control our borders , the conservative party are just not very good at it ,the Labour party would be worse and the limp dims would give them back to Europe .

Hopefully in the not too distant future we will have another  choice that is more in tune with the electorate .So yes going back to the thread starter we did know what we were voting for , the people  in Government  obviously didn't though
Well, you can't say you control them when there are no checks. You could control them, but you don't.

"get brexit done" and "take back control", two of the most used, meaningless statements ever. We now know that taking back control had nothing to do with border checks and get brexit done means, well nobody really knows yet.

Barry

Quote from: HallowedBrexit on May 02, 2022, 02:16:42 PM
No offense Gerry, but don't you ever listen to DeppityDawg and Sheepy?

Brexit was the breaking of the chains. It was our Dunkirk moment. It was about a sovereign coastal state throwing down the gauntlet to the EU and say "no more".

We have taken back control and you are still shackled by the Brussels Mafia.
Sheepy has been AWOL since 22 days ago. Maybe someone up high upset him.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: GerryT on May 02, 2022, 02:33:16 PM
We have a say, just not supreme leaders.
How come the UK doesn't control it's borders, I thought that was a key objective of Brexit.
We do control our borders , the conservative party are just not very good at it ,the Labour party would be worse and the limp dims would give them back to Europe . 

Hopefully in the not too distant future we will have another  choice that is more in tune with the electorate .So yes going back to the thread starter we did know what we were voting for , the people  in Government  obviously didn't though 

GerryT

Quote from: HallowedBrexit on May 02, 2022, 02:16:42 PM
No offense Gerry, but don't you ever listen to DeppityDawg and Sheepy?

Brexit was the breaking of the chains. It was our Dunkirk moment. It was about a sovereign coastal state throwing down the gauntlet to the EU and say "no more".

We have taken back control and you are still shackled by the Brussels Mafia.
That's very dramatic. Reality is you joined the EU freely, well after begging a couple of times to join, you were far from an inclusive member, and then you left freely, screaming and shouting. All the drama. Now the screaming is about how unfair the brexit deal was/is, the deal the UK signed freely. Maybe resetting expectations of reality is needed. 

Borchester

Quote from: HallowedBrexit on May 02, 2022, 02:16:42 PM
No offense Gerry, but don't you ever listen to DeppityDawg and Sheepy?

Brexit was the breaking of the chains. It was our Dunkirk moment. It was about a sovereign coastal state throwing down the gauntlet to the EU and say "no more".

We have taken back control and you are still shackled by the Brussels Mafia.

Gerry is alright, but as said, he is just a kid and despite all his bravado, a bit afraid of letting go of nurse's hand.
Algerie Francais !

GerryT

Quote from: cromwell on May 02, 2022, 11:43:45 AM
What do you vote for Gerry,oh yeah to be told what to do by Brussels under the illusion you have a say :D
We have a say, just not supreme leaders.
How come the UK doesn't control it's borders, I thought that was a key objective of Brexit.

HallowedBrexit

Quote from: GerryT on May 02, 2022, 11:16:51 AM
This is not about import taxes. It's about the UK checking imports, to see if they match what's on the paperwork. Now that people know the UK isn't bother with doing checks (I'm sure they are but not as much as required) it will be a smugglers paradise. What was brexit, "take back control" of our borders, how do we do that, have no checks at our borders, genius. Is that what you voted for ?

No offense Gerry, but don't you ever listen to DeppityDawg and Sheepy?

Brexit was the breaking of the chains. It was our Dunkirk moment. It was about a sovereign coastal state throwing down the gauntlet to the EU and say "no more". 

We have taken back control and you are still shackled by the Brussels Mafia.

Borchester

What do you vote for Gerry,oh yeah to be told what to do by Brussels under the illusion you have a say :D


Gerry didn't get a vote. As a British citizen living in Catford he would have been entitled to one, but not until he reached 18. 13 year olds were effectively disenfranchised

:):)
Algerie Francais !

patman post

Quote from: cromwell on March 20, 2022, 10:13:53 AM
That was mildly funny but incorrect,anyway you missed out why anyone votes libdem,go on give us a laugh. ;)
LibDems provide a handy holiday home for disaffected Tory voters, who find it difficult to hold their noses and vote Labour, and local Labour voters who believe the LibDem's whispered assurances that they really have socialist sympathies. 

It's a bit like, in the recent past, Tories voting for Ukip because they'd hate to be outed as BNP sympathisers...
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cromwell

Quote from: GerryT on May 02, 2022, 11:16:51 AM
This is not about import taxes. It's about the UK checking imports, to see if they match what's on the paperwork. Now that people know the UK isn't bother with doing checks (I'm sure they are but not as much as required) it will be a smugglers paradise. What was brexit, "take back control" of our borders, how do we do that, have no checks at our borders, genius. Is that what you voted for ?
What do you vote for Gerry,oh yeah to be told what to do by Brussels under the illusion you have a say :D
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

GerryT

Quote from: Borchester on April 30, 2022, 12:16:40 PM
"On a visit to the Eurotunnel terminal at Folkestone, hi-vis gilet over his double-breasted suit, Rees-Mogg announced that the government was delaying yet again the imposition of post-Brexit border checks on imports from the EU. He asked the public to celebrate this decision, on the grounds that it would save £1bn a year and help hard-pressed consumers by avoiding an increase in the cost of imported food. Enforcing post-Brexit checks, said the minister, "would have been an act of self-harm"."

Makes sense, which is more than the Guardian does.

The government wants to keep the cost of food imports down, which has been something Rees Mogg has long advocated as one of the pluses of Brexit.

Anyone who wants to pay a billion extra for their dinner and can't do that via import taxes is welcome to send the money they have saved direct to the Treasury
This is not about import taxes. It's about the UK checking imports, to see if they match what's on the paperwork. Now that people know the UK isn't bother with doing checks (I'm sure they are but not as much as required) it will be a smugglers paradise. What was brexit, "take back control" of our borders, how do we do that, have no checks at our borders, genius. Is that what you voted for ?