Can Russia be stopped?

[B0ycey]

Not according to the media and the EU, just saying.

I can't say I have ever heard the media or the EU say that Sheepy. The media might focus on protests against the war in Russia but that is because there isn't any difference between the Russians and the Europeans and Russians want peace too I guess. But that is a totally different argument from patriotism. Russians want their country to prosper as we do in the West. But actually it seems the way to do that for Russia now is to focus their economy to China and I see the Western economy struggling now. We need Russian gas and oil. And now we have decided to cut ourselves off from that with sanctions, we are forcing Russia to built relationships with China now and eventually once their economy is completely not reliable with us, they will shut off the gas and it is we who are fucked. That might not be a bad thing (in terms of peace), as I said in a previous post, it seems Orwell was very accurate with how he forseen the outcome of the world in the formation of three superpowers, and although it will be four, we in the West will have to be self reliant on only ourselves. Time to consider fracking, and I write that as someone who is against it. But we soon might not have a choice.

[Sampanviking]

Love Vlad,is that why there are protests and people arrested?

I am sure there are anti war protests in Russia just as they occour in all countries. I remember a million people marched before the illegal invasion of Iraq, but that did not get anything the coverage they are giving to small groups in Russia, funny that eh!

We are in the middle of an Information War that is firing on all barrels. Are you not even slightly disturbed that all Russian media channels have so quickly been banned. Is the Western media narrative really so weak, that it could challenged by the "State Mouthpiece media" of Putin?

[Scott777]

Probably as much as having blue.

Anyway I doubt ordinary Russians hate the west as much as you'd like to imagine.

We should always separate the governments from its people.  I'm sure Russians hate the western agenda, and the ideology of the elite, not necessarily the people.  The agenda is identity politics, Marxism, control.  Russians don't want that.

[Sheepy]

Love Vlad,is that why there are protests and people arrested?

So, you believe a few thousand protesters will make a difference when the vast majority back him totally, there were a lot more protesters here when you compare populations it still didn't stop your Mr Blair. 

[HDQQ]

Factually incorrect, it was invited in by the Secular Socialist Government that was already in power and which was under pressure from Islamic Extremists to reverse such policies as educating girls etc etc. The US decided to give these nutjobs some of the most advanced light weapons in its arsenal and the rest is history.

Leonid Brezhnev ordered the Russian USSR army into Afghanistan to overthrow the Communist government there, with which the USSR had fallen out. They even executed its leader.

[cromwell]

No, they don't hate me personally, I get on fine with them, they hate the leaders who say one thing and do another while thinking they can control them as well. They love Vlad because he doesn't put up with the wests nonsense and see him as a buffer from the wests total decline.

Love Vlad,is that why there are protests and people arrested?

[Sheepy]

Anyway I doubt ordinary Russians hate the west as much as you'd like to imagine.

No, they don't hate me personally, I get on fine with them, they hate the leaders who say one thing and do another while thinking they can control them as well. They love Vlad because he doesn't put up with the wests nonsense and see him as a buffer from the wests total decline.

[Sampanviking]

The USSR invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and never gained full control and left, defeated, ten years later. At the time the USSR had a population of 288 million and Afghanistan had a population of 13 million.  The US-led invasion of Afghanistan ultimately ended in failure too.

So from this it's reasonable to assume that Russia might be able to be stopped, although it's difficult right now to see how. Compare the population figures now with those above. Russia has a population of 145 million and Ukraine 41 million. I think the best hope would be that Russian morale deteriorates, with growing anger among the Russian population and anger turns on Putin.

Factually incorrect, it was invited in by the Secular Socialist Government that was already in power and which was under pressure from Islamic Extremists to reverse such policies as educating girls etc etc. The US decided to give these nutjobs some of the most advanced light weapons in its arsenal and the rest is history.

[Barry]

Does it make you feel big, making light of Covid-19?

Quack quack.

[cromwell]

What difference would it make if I did?

Probably as much as having blue.

Anyway I doubt ordinary Russians hate the west as much as you'd like to imagine.

[Sampanviking]

The UN should have some sway in this, but Russia are on the security council and have a veto. The world needs to reject or suspend Russia from the UN whilst there is a maverick in charge of the country.
When that is done, the UN issue an ultimatum to get out, or we force you out.

However, it's difficult to see the courage aspect coming from countries which have been terrified by a virus for 2 years.
Perhaps all this war news is getting people to pump up their backbones.

Sauce for the Goose can easily become sauce for the gander. Besides I don;t think its for the US to decide who can be the President of every other country in the world. If you remove Russia under any pretext, that would at the very least destroy the UN and most likely mark the real start of WW3

[Sheepy]

Russian are patriotic people

Not according to the media and the EU, just saying. 

[Sheepy]

You never know! FYI I have never had blue rinsed hair or the fuddy duddy image associated with it but I guess that doesn't fit with your narrative. Sorry that I don't match your mental image.

Maybe I just like to push you, as I can see you fancy yourself as a bit of a leader and a cross carrier of all things you see as black and white. A missionary for the heathens. 

[HDQQ]

The UN should have some sway in this, but Russia are on the security council and have a veto. The world needs to reject or suspend Russia from the UN whilst there is a maverick in charge of the country.
When that is done, the UN issue an ultimatum to get out, or we force you out.

However, it's difficult to see the courage aspect coming from countries which have been terrified by a virus for 2 years.
Perhaps all this war news is getting people to pump up their backbones.

Does it make you feel big, making light of Covid-19?

[HDQQ]

That isn't for the Russians ducky that is propaganda for you, I listen to the Russian people the vast majority of them hate the west for the previous sanctions and see this as a chance of a small victory over the west that has tried to create division.

Didn't Saddam Hussein win a presidential election in Iraq with 99.9% of the vote?  

We all know how opinion can turn suddenly sometimes and yet opinion is very entrenched at others, with no logical explanation. The Russians might be blaming sanctions today but tomorrow they might be blaming Putin for those sanctions.