What is really happening in the Ukraine Conflict?

Started by Sampanviking, March 18, 2022, 01:00:53 AM

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Sheepy

I was asked yesterday what are we proposing to do about Vlad, after all he has threatened to Nuke us, so I explained London will be a huge crater and everything within a hundred miles will be flattened, he was pushed into a big mistake which he probably knows by now anyway, how he puts it right is his problem. Not ours as it happens. We all make mistakes as we very often prove.  
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Sampanviking

Former US Marine Officer and UN WMD Inspector Scott Ritter spells it out for the hard of understanding.....

https://twitter.com/marymodestus/status/1573278132957810689

Sampanviking

Quote from: Nick on September 23, 2022, 10:42:46 AM
Amazing how you believe everything coming out of Russia without question but dispute everything going the other way.
Hmmm Sounds like what they call transference to me, as I think that is yourself your describing there, other direction of course, but same rigidity.

No Nick, It not about belief in any shape or form, but definitely about disbelief and total distrust of our own Media and Political establishment.
These people have done nothing but lie, consistently, persistently, shamelessly and without any shred of conscience or apology, to us, the citizens of the West, over every major geopolitical issue of the last thirty to forty years (at least).
There is no reason whatsoever to trust that this case is any different.

So no, I do not believe what they say and actively seek the counter narrative which I post for the benefit of members here, who are free to take note or not as they please.

When our establishment tell lies about the rest of the world, it is not the people in the rest of the world who are the target of these lies, because they are fully aware of the truth and reality of their lives, it is us, and while I cannot speak for anyone else on this matter, I deeply resent anyone who abuses their position of power and influence to lie to me. certainly in this blatant and flagrant way.

Given the atrocious track record of our leaders with the truth, the amazing part is that anyone takes them seriously at all.
You know what they say
"Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me"

It never ceases to amaze me, how it is that those that like trumpet the values of "Freedom and Democracy" most, are the first to assume the position of a Serf, the moment they hear their master's voice.

Nick

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 23, 2022, 12:15:55 AM
Stories of 35 km long queues at the Finnish border debunked by Euronews
The widely shared footage was taken at the end of August as reflects normal traffic levels according to the Finnish Border Service...

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/22/debunked-russians-were-not-in-a-35km-queue-at-finland-border

Just the latest in a long list of total bollocks stories peddled by the MSM
Amazing how you believe everything coming out of Russia without question but dispute everything going the other way. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sampanviking

Stories of 35 km long queues at the Finnish border debunked by Euronews
The widely shared footage was taken at the end of August as reflects normal traffic levels according to the Finnish Border Service...

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/22/debunked-russians-were-not-in-a-35km-queue-at-finland-border

Just the latest in a long list of total bollocks stories peddled by the MSM

Nick

Quote from: patman post on September 22, 2022, 05:59:29 PM
Nick a sock puppet?

The idea is amusing. Which other character on here is Nick's alter ego — me, Toots, or perhaps papsmurf?

The mind boggles...
😂 

Cause I really follow the crowd. 😜 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

papasmurf

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 22, 2022, 06:44:50 PM
I really didn't want to go there
Smurphy is a good guess, neither of them makes that much sense and the bans just means he wants a break and posting holiday :D
Frankly you dismiss a mass of evidence, that is NOT false news. You post a lot of theory about Russian military power that just does not stand up to close inspection.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Sampanviking

Quote from: patman post on September 22, 2022, 05:59:29 PM
Nick a sock puppet?

The idea is amusing. Which other character on here is Nick's alter ego — me, Toots, or perhaps papsmurf?

The mind boggles...
I really didn't want to go there
Smurphy is a good guess, neither of them makes that much sense and the bans just means he wants a break and posting holiday :D

patman post

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 22, 2022, 05:39:36 PM
Yes Nick everything you don't like on the net is fake and only you are the font of true knowledge!
Well if your knowledge of Russia matches your knowledge of China, then the joke is on you.
But then your pose of to the right of Ghenghis Khan, always has raised eyebrows
You for real or just a sock puppet?
Nick a sock puppet? 

The idea is amusing. Which other character on here is Nick's alter ego — me, Toots, or perhaps papsmurf?

The mind boggles...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

Sampanviking

Closer look at the BTR you have been rabbiting on about
Clearly not burned out but simply disabled and abandoned
Why your making such a fuss over a regimental crest baffles me, its hardly a difficult concept.

https://twitter.com/LogKa11/status/1572989084569673735

Nick

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 22, 2022, 05:39:36 PM
Yes Nick everything you don't like on the net is fake and only you are the font of true knowledge!
Well if your knowledge of Russia matches your knowledge of China, then the joke is on you.
But then your pose of to the right of Ghenghis Khan, always has raised eyebrows
You for real or just a sock puppet?
My knowledge of China is just fine, you just don't see it with your indoctrinated specs on. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sampanviking

Quote from: Nick on September 22, 2022, 04:04:26 PM
You can produce a 100 videos if you wish, you can't prove the validity of anyone them. But a burnt out tank with a freshly painted logo speaks volumes. And having been to Russia many times I know how they operate. I'll be there again in about 3 weeks so will be getting the inside scoop.

The fact that you deem Twitter as the font of all knowledge is laughable. 😂
Yes Nick everything you don't like on the net is fake and only you are the font of true knowledge!
Well if your knowledge of Russia matches your knowledge of China, then the joke is on you.
But then your pose of to the right of Ghenghis Khan, always has raised eyebrows
You for real or just a sock puppet?

Nick

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 22, 2022, 12:07:26 PM
While realising that many have sympathies other than mine, I did at least want to think that people were basing opinions on hard facts.
Clearly this is not the case and delusion is the order of the day

For Nick

I do try to avoid posting War Porn, but the video I posted yesterday is just one of of a stream that comes out daily.
To try to dismiss such as "Staged Propaganda" is barking...
The "Great Kherson Counter Offensive" has been raging for a month now and has has barely managed to make a dent in the front lines.
Here is another one from yesterday from the same general area
https://twitter.com/tinso_ww/status/1572641581886312448
If you want the really graphic and unexpurgated versions of these sort of video's go onto Telegram, but I am not posting them.

oir Sundry Others

Talking of falling for a three card trick, some people clearly can't see a Psy Op when they see one and really believe that Russia is now a riot torn flaming wreck with half the countries storming the borders to get out - crazy!
Well I have seen some student type protests, mainly on what look like Campus, but nothing remarkable. Anyway doesn't protest simply mean that Russia is just a normal country?
Finland is reporting normal traffic at its borders - so go figure...
Anyway wouldn't they have trouble getting out because nearly all the border countries are refusing any Russian Visa's into the Schengen Area?

So back to reality (remember that)
Zelensky is pressing his unwilling Generals to commit their remaining reserves into frantic offensive operations to disrupt the imminent referenda in the Russian liberated Oblasts.
Why? because the local population are actually been given a chance to express what they want.
If Zelensky was confident, all he has to do is nothing and wait for the resounding no vote to come back in his favour.
Clearly he knows this is not happening and that this week, the population living on some 20% of the territory he claims as Ukraine, will vote to leave the Ukraine and join the Russian Federation.
He also know that at least another 20% in the adjacent districts are waiting for the chance to get the same vote themselves.
After that, well. who knows how far the enthusiasm to leave will spread.

Then of course, these Oblasts will be Sovereign Russian Territory and the restrictions imposed by the Special Military Operation will no longer apply.
No longer will Russia be constrained only to use the predetermined forces of the Task Force, but can send in any number of Regulars that they wish.
You can produce a 100 videos if you wish, you can't prove the validity of anyone them. But a burnt out tank with a freshly painted logo speaks volumes. And having been to Russia many times I know how they operate. I'll be there again in about 3 weeks so will be getting the inside scoop.

The fact that you deem Twitter as the font of all knowledge is laughable. 😂 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sampanviking

OMG Its true! the mob are storming the border gates in Russia !???

https://twitter.com/ILRUSSO1/status/1572883574088671233

Oh, I see, its just opening the gates at a Military Recruitment Office :D

Same process in Kiev regime occupied territory

https://twitter.com/sbobkov/status/1572692483985014784

srb7677

Quote from: Sampanviking on September 22, 2022, 12:07:26 PMdelusion is the order of the day
I can see that with many of your posts on this subject. lol
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.