What is really happening in the Ukraine Conflict?

Started by Sampanviking, March 18, 2022, 01:00:53 AM

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T00ts

How is Putin ever going to justify the losses of men?

srb7677

Quote from: Sampanviking on November 06, 2022, 04:19:33 PMNo sign of any Russian withdrawel from Kherson west of the Dnieper. All indications totally say the opposite.
Of course they are not retreating. They are merely advancing in another direction, eh Sampan?
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.


Barry

The withdrawal in Kherson is looking a bit bad for Putin, but I'd not underestimate a cornered animal.

I see that Biden thinks this is a time to go for peace talks. Perhaps Ukraine should tell them if they don't withdraw to where they were in January they'll take back the Crimean peninsular, too.

But, on the other hand, Putin has a commander in charge who has a reputation for ruthlessness. Do they intend to defeat Ukraine by just destroying all their electricity, gas and fresh water infrastructure? Isn't that a war crime against civilians.

One thing is for sure, Putin is not about to withdraw gracefully. 
† The end is nigh †

Sampanviking

Quote from: Nick on November 06, 2022, 04:31:30 PM
Phones and internet being switched of where? Not in Russia they haven't!
On the front line areas under martial law. Primarily as I understand it, in Kherson

Nick

Quote from: Sampanviking on November 06, 2022, 04:19:33 PM
No sign of any Russian withdrawel from Kherson west of the Dnieper. All indications totally say the opposite.

Something though is building along the entire front and the Bakhmut front seems especially active today with lots of channels talking about the Wagner group making "significant" advances.
Overall though there has been a pretty complete news blackout from the Russian side over the last few days. even the internet and phones being switched off. This combined with the apparent none-working of the Starlink system is widely supposed to be an operational news blackout by the Russians prior to a forthcoming major offensive.

What there has been plenty of, during the last few days is footage of drone and artillery strikes against the Ukraines Air Defenses and Artillery pieces. The tempo again reinforces the sense of major offensive looming....

Here is a selection
Artillery being struck
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1589248695325044736
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1589196089286348800

Ukrainian column in Ugledar (southern Donetsk) being targeted by Artillery
https://twitter.com/Taurevanime/status/1588985428719194112

Finally very rare footage of tank on tank action at point blank range!
https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1589259964169981952
Phones and internet being switched of where? Not in Russia they haven't!
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sampanviking

No sign of any Russian withdrawel from Kherson west of the Dnieper. All indications totally say the opposite.

Something though is building along the entire front and the Bakhmut front seems especially active today with lots of channels talking about the Wagner group making "significant" advances.
Overall though there has been a pretty complete news blackout from the Russian side over the last few days. even the internet and phones being switched off. This combined with the apparent none-working of the Starlink system is widely supposed to be an operational news blackout by the Russians prior to a forthcoming major offensive.

What there has been plenty of, during the last few days is footage of drone and artillery strikes against the Ukraines Air Defenses and Artillery pieces. The tempo again reinforces the sense of major offensive looming....

Here is a selection
Artillery being struck
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1589248695325044736
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1589196089286348800

Ukrainian column in Ugledar (southern Donetsk) being targeted by Artillery
https://twitter.com/Taurevanime/status/1588985428719194112

Finally very rare footage of tank on tank action at point blank range!
https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1589259964169981952

Nick

Quote from: Streetwalker on November 03, 2022, 03:08:07 PM
One often follows the other
I joined the RAF after the Falklands War and come out before the 1st Gulf War and some of my fellow TCW mates recalling tales of VOA putting out propaganda about Gurkha's jumping out of Hercules at about 50' with out parachutes. The Argentinians were apparently 💩 their pant thinking the first thing they'd know after a plane went over was the cold steel of a Gurkha blade. Propaganda is a powerful tool when used right and the right story used, that's where the likes of RT fail miserably. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Streetwalker

Quote from: cromwell on November 03, 2022, 02:27:53 PM
https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1588100657394745344/photo/1


Russians preparing to lose Khershon?
Somethings not right here . A few days ago the ethnic Russians are told to leave and now it appears the admin are following . I think they are more likely to be preparing to fight for it :( which means like many towns before it will become a pile of rubble .   

Streetwalker

Quote from: papasmurf on November 02, 2022, 11:31:01 AM
There is a very big difference between picking a side and propaganda.
One often follows the other 

cromwell

Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

papasmurf

Quote from: Streetwalker on November 02, 2022, 09:02:02 AM
TV News channels pick a side on most topics and stick with it regardless .
There is a very big difference between picking a side and propaganda.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Nick

Quote from: Sampanviking on November 01, 2022, 09:11:13 PM
All very dramatic but not exactly an answer to the question I asked, which is why you could not video some of the tat you say you have seen on Russian TV.
As I said, its on public broadcast, who going to care whether you record it or not.
I really don't see why you need to worry about 10 years in the Gulag??!!


Here's a bit. 

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Streetwalker

Quote from: papasmurf on November 02, 2022, 08:23:24 AM
ALL TV News programs when comes to Ukraine are propaganda.
TV News channels pick a side on most topics and stick with it regardless . 

papasmurf

Quote from: Sampanviking on November 01, 2022, 08:33:23 PM
Unlike what we lucky things get over here eh? ::)
ALL TV News programs when comes to Ukraine are propaganda.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe