Australian Fires

[Barry]

Look what I found Cromwell:

https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110193.pdf?v=c77f06e782d33a2ec8bf00d7c597ea10">//https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110193.pdf?v=c77f06e782d33a2ec8bf00d7c597ea10



Just for those whipper snappers who have not a clue of what we speak. :shock:

[cromwell]

^^ good post Cromwell. :hattip

How times have changed.

Remember the "Protect and survive" leaflets? I was more impressionable in those days and I was really concerned, wondered if we were being responsible having kids. Now thanks to those kids we have 5 grandkids and they don't seem to have the same qualms.

Now society seems to promote the hidden badges!

Yes and I have one of those type of leaflets,in the section which says make a refuge room and advised chairs,camp beds,sewing and knitting and toys and games for the kids.



If caught in the open when there's a blast lie in a ditch or a fold in the ground

 

[Nick]

From a GWPF email I received today:



Christine Finlay has been sounding the alarm on bushfires in Australia for more than a decade after tracking the relationship ­between reduced cool burning and the frequency of firestorms. And the Queensland-based fire ­researcher, who charted a century of archival bushfire records for her PhD, has long been screaming danger. Finlay's thesis examined problem bushfires between 1881 and 1981. What she found after plotting the historical data on a graph was that there was a marked increase in the size and frequency of fires after 1919. This was when bushfire-reduction operations increasingly moved away from traditional indigenous practices such as low-­intensity cool burning. "For years, I energetically sent this predictive model to government agencies, in particular bushfire services, the media, coronial and parliamentary inquiries and so on," she says. "Horribly ­ignored, it proved horribly accurate."

[papasmurf]

Remember the "Protect and survive" leaflets?

I have one of those somewhere plus my mother's still classified Civil Defence manual.

Both could be more realistically be called In The Event of a Nuclear Attack Bend Down and Kiss Your Arse Goodbye.

[Barry]

^^ good post Cromwell. :hattip

How times have changed.

Remember the "Protect and survive" leaflets? I was more impressionable in those days and I was really concerned, wondered if we were being responsible having kids. Now thanks to those kids we have 5 grandkids and they don't seem to have the same qualms.

Now society seems to promote the hidden badges!

[cromwell]

From a GWPF email I received today:



Christine Finlay has been sounding the alarm on bushfires in Australia for more than a decade after tracking the relationship ­between reduced cool burning and the frequency of firestorms. And the Queensland-based fire ­researcher, who charted a century of archival bushfire records for her PhD, has long been screaming danger. Finlay's thesis examined problem bushfires between 1881 and 1981. What she found after plotting the historical data on a graph was that there was a marked increase in the size and frequency of fires after 1919. This was when bushfire-reduction operations increasingly moved away from traditional indigenous practices such as low-­intensity cool burning. "For years, I energetically sent this predictive model to government agencies, in particular bushfire services, the media, coronial and parliamentary inquiries and so on," she says. "Horribly ­ignored, it proved horribly accurate."

[Barry]

From a GWPF email I received today:



Christine Finlay has been sounding the alarm on bushfires in Australia for more than a decade after tracking the relationship ­between reduced cool burning and the frequency of firestorms. And the Queensland-based fire ­researcher, who charted a century of archival bushfire records for her PhD, has long been screaming danger. Finlay's thesis examined problem bushfires between 1881 and 1981. What she found after plotting the historical data on a graph was that there was a marked increase in the size and frequency of fires after 1919. This was when bushfire-reduction operations increasingly moved away from traditional indigenous practices such as low-­intensity cool burning. "For years, I energetically sent this predictive model to government agencies, in particular bushfire services, the media, coronial and parliamentary inquiries and so on," she says. "Horribly ­ignored, it proved horribly accurate."

[Barry]

So has it always been so or is it a sign that people in general are no longer biddable? Do we believe now that we are so informed that we can ignore any advice?

I think that it is because the authorities have been found lying to us so many times in the recent past, that it is difficult to know if we can trust them.

I hope there are no sharks in that part of the sea.  :shock:

[papasmurf]

So has it always been so or is it a sign that people in general are no longer biddable? Do we believe now that we are so informed that we can ignore any advice?

Personally I think it is a sign people are becoming more stupid, because most people are so insulated from the real world they lack threat perception.

I come across examples of it on a near daily basis.

[T00ts]

Locally here in West Cornwall deaths of tourists because they ignore advice , warning notices and very obvious risky situations are a regular occurrence.

So has it always been so or is it a sign that people in general are no longer biddable? Do we believe now that we are so informed that we can ignore any advice?

[papasmurf]

Locally here in West Cornwall deaths of tourists because they ignore advice , warning notices and very obvious risky situations are a regular occurrence.

[T00ts]

The Australian fires story has featured for an age. The horror of them thousands of miles away as I watch the news makes me nervous so how can 4000 people presume that they needed to ignore the advice to evacuate their holiday spot? This morning they are supposed to be in the sea while the fire rages around them.



My heart goes out to them but why put themselves in danger? Did they think the authorities were exaggerating?