Sussexes at Invictus Games

Started by patman post, April 11, 2022, 07:11:04 PM

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Quote from: Streetwalker on April 20, 2022, 04:54:54 PM
He still suffers from the illusion of importance if you ask me . Having cut ties with the Family he makes stupid comments regarding making sure the Queen is protected and has the right people around her .

Its really got naff all to do with him . Will probably make the netflix production with connections to security around the Royals and links to his Mother nor him having  it after they left the inner circle .

Not that in his mothers case it wasn't offered of course
Important or not, Harry is still attracting loads of column inches and hours of air time world wide, and providing healthy incomes for professional Royal watchers and commentators. So, either the media is driving  this story, or enough of the public is still interested and influencing the current news agenda.

Today's outcry about a two-second subsidiary off-the-cuff remark** in an answer to a question about his relationship with the Queen indicates to me a conscious decision to look for reasons to be offended. The same can be said about Australian PM's remark in answering a question in a campaign meeting from the mother of an autistic child...

** Being with her, it was great. It was so nice to see her... she's on great form. I'm just making sure she's protected and got the right people around her.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: cromwell on April 20, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
Well Harry has burnt his boats over here I think saying the states is his home now,that's still fine with me and wish him well because I think he still suffers over his mothers death.
He still suffers from the illusion of importance if you ask me . Having cut ties with the Family he makes stupid comments regarding making sure the Queen is protected and has the right people around her . 

Its really got naff all to do with him . Will probably make the netflix production with connections to security around the Royals and links to his Mother nor him having  it after they left the inner circle .

Not that in his mothers case it wasn't offered of course 

cromwell

Well Harry has burnt his boats over here I think saying the states is his home now,that's still fine with me and wish him well because I think he still suffers over his mothers death.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

cromwell

Quote from: B0ycey on April 12, 2022, 12:38:19 PM
I'm surprised Cromwell. Not interested in Big ears paying no tax on the Duchy but up in arms for Mrs Sunak paying sod all on her Indian earnings. What kind of Republican are you?
Do;t be surprised,didn't I say all should pay according to their means,big ears has plenty ergo should pay plenty.
Anyway back to Harry as a person I wish him well and his brother.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

B0ycey

Quote from: cromwell on April 12, 2022, 12:08:36 PM
Anyway I was just answering your point though this thread is about the sussexes so I'll leave it there.
I'm surprised Cromwell. Not interested in Big ears paying no tax on the Duchy but up in arms for Mrs Sunak paying sod all on her Indian earnings. What kind of Republican are you?

cromwell

Quote from: B0ycey on April 12, 2022, 11:39:58 AM
The problem with your argument Cromwell is everyone pays what they are legally required to and no more. Rich, poor there is no difference here. it If you don't like that, you need to stop voting the Tories, the party of loopholes that reduce what the rich pay as they put their money in channels, investments and holdings, and not blame the people who use them given you would act in the same way if the boot was on the other foot. But in regards to Charles, he doesn't pay anything in terms of his Duchy income and the Queen only pays tax because she wants to not because she is required to and in that sense is no different to Mrs Sunak who is now doing likewise with her INDIAN dividends.
There no problem with my argument there is that you've not perceived that I'm not a regular or enthusiastic Tory voter.

Anyway I was just answering your point though this thread is about the sussexes so I'll leave it there.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

patman post

Quote from: T00ts on April 11, 2022, 07:32:43 PM
I would agree with you except M&H are not alone, they are taking their Netflix camera team with them. Now while he was doing this for purely altruistic reasons all credit to him but it doesn't sit right that he is going to make money out of them.
Royals and ex-royals provide continued rich pickings for "specialist" royal commentators and photographers, so what's so wrong in the now disaffected and disillusioned couple earning money for themselves (if they are) instead of drawing from the public purse...?
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patman post

Quote from: Streetwalker on April 11, 2022, 10:46:22 PM
For a lot of people and for a variety of reasons Harry has burnt his bridges Posty . He obviously feels safer in The Hauge at his games  than he does in Westminster Abbey with the worlds royalty .  The lads got his priorities wrong on more than one occasion and with the family wrecker in tow just gives everyone the hump as she is seen wrightly or wrongly as the one thats pulling his strings .
You are obviously have more inside knowledge of the couple's two dysfunctional families than I do, but I don't see what the two of them have done that's so dreadful.

Harry has already visited the GB team's training camp, competitors interviewed there appear to value his efforts and continued involvement:
https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/11/meghan-will-join-harry-at-invictus-games-in-the-netherlands-16447567/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10708587/Meghan-Markle-join-Prince-Harry-Invictus-Games-Netherlands-days.html

It seems the games in The Hague are being held under the auspices of the Netherlands Ministry of Defence, so I doubt safety and security are an issue.

Despite the carping, I bet the event will attract media coverage — not least because of the couple's attendance — but as a vehicle for raising public (and official) awareness of disabled ex-military, is that necessarily a bad thing...?
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B0ycey

Quote from: cromwell on April 12, 2022, 11:28:50 AM
@BOycey it should be clear everyone from the highest to lowest should cough up according to their means,that those with the most pay out to see what are in effect scams on the rest of us that the gullible find acceptable and lawful cheats.
The problem with your argument Cromwell is everyone pays what they are legally required to and no more. Rich, poor there is no difference here. it If you don't like that, you need to stop voting the Tories, the party of loopholes that reduce what the rich pay as they put their money in channels, investments and holdings, and not blame the people who use them given you would act in the same way if the boot was on the other foot. But in regards to Charles, he doesn't pay anything in terms of his Duchy income and the Queen only pays tax because she wants to not because she is required to and in that sense is no different to Mrs Sunak who is now doing likewise with her INDIAN dividends.

cromwell

Quote from: Streetwalker on April 12, 2022, 08:06:49 AM
As someone who over a period of years made polite conversation with  the silly old sods second wife I know how he feels.

Who Charlie ended up with isnt really the point though . It was more that Megan having fallen out with her own family has now moved on to making sure Harry falls out with his .So Harry doesnt like Camilla ,I dont suppose William is too keen either but behaves as most people do in that situation for the sake of family unity .

The line of succession will remain intact cromwell as will the Royal Family  . Its popularity goes up and down and you may well be right that it takes a dip with Charlie (It can hardly go up after the Queen)  and will bounce back with the more likeable William .
I feel more than a bit sorry for Harry and his brother for the circumstances they found themselves in,nothing to do with their position as royals but losing their mother who whatever her human failings which afflicts us all she was imo a good mother.

The queen may have not put a foot wrong in her royal position can't say the same for her parenting skills over a clearly dysfunctional family.

@BOycey it should be clear everyone from the highest to lowest should cough up according to their means,that those with the most pay out to see what are in effect scams on the rest of us that the gullible find acceptable and lawful cheats.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

B0ycey

From my POV, Harry has done well getting out of the firm in one piece.

To be fair @cromwell, you are at least a Republican so this isn't directly aimed entirely at you but if we want to discuss tax dodgers not paying their dues we shouldn't be looking at Mrs Sunak but the Duchy of Cornwall.

Also has anyone thought that Harry might be at the Hague not by choice but necessity? The UK won't provide his security despite him offering to pay for it. I guess the Dutch are more than happy to take care of him given it is a monarchy.

And no, Harry hasn't done anything wrong but protect his wife. Meagan never said anything that Diana didn't say as well but one seems to be the nations sweetheart and the other is regarded as a home wrecker. The fact Harry has stayed by her side should be all the evidence we need to know Kensington House is nothing short of a PR business and anyone who signs up to it will never have a normal life despite all the bling. Harry's mistake was trying to build bridges I guess. But if I was him and by the way I was treated, I would rather do more Oprah interviews than repair the damage the truth bombs did for the firm.

Streetwalker

Quote from: cromwell on April 12, 2022, 12:12:25 AM
Speaking of home wreckers young Harry apparently has no time for the original home wrecker the ugly sister who big ears would have as queen.

Its all very well blaming it all on some yank but the seeds were sown long ago and if big ears fails to step aside in favour of William they're done for.
As someone who over a period of years made polite conversation with  the silly old sods second wife I know how he feels.

Who Charlie ended up with isnt really the point though . It was more that Megan having fallen out with her own family has now moved on to making sure Harry falls out with his .So Harry doesnt like Camilla ,I dont suppose William is too keen either but behaves as most people do in that situation for the sake of family unity . 

The line of succession will remain intact cromwell as will the Royal Family  . Its popularity goes up and down and you may well be right that it takes a dip with Charlie (It can hardly go up after the Queen)  and will bounce back with the more likeable William . 

cromwell

Quote from: Nick on April 11, 2022, 11:10:06 PM
This the same home wrecker that invited Oprah to her wedding having never met her, to only have a feature length interview with her within months.
Speaking of home wreckers young Harry apparently has no time for the original home wrecker the ugly sister who big ears would have as queen.

Its all very well blaming it all on some yank but the seeds were sown long ago and if big ears fails to step aside in favour of William they're done for.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Nick

Quote from: Streetwalker on April 11, 2022, 10:46:22 PM
For a lot of people and for a variety of reasons Harry has burnt his bridges Posty . He obviously feels safer in The Hauge at his games  than he does in Westminster Abbey with the worlds royalty .  The lads got his priorities wrong on more than one occasion and with the family wrecker in tow just gives everyone the hump as she is seen wrightly or wrongly as the one thats pulling his strings .
This the same home wrecker that invited Oprah to her wedding having never met her, to only have a feature length interview with her within months. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Streetwalker

Quote from: patman post on April 11, 2022, 07:11:04 PM
The Duchess of Sussex will join her husband at the Invictus Games, which are taking place this weekend at The Hague. The competition is set to take place from April 16 to 22 in The Netherlands after it was delayed during the pandemic.

The games were founded Harry to aid the rehabilitation of injured or sick military personnel and veterans from across the globe, by giving them the challenge of competing in sporting events similar to the Paralympics. On Monday evening, a spokesperson for the duke and duchess confirmed that Meghan will join Harry at the Games in The Hague for the first few days.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/meghan-join-harry-years-invictus-6938919

Good for them.
Wonder if the usual carpers will find/manufacture something to criticise...
For a lot of people and for a variety of reasons Harry has burnt his bridges Posty . He obviously feels safer in The Hauge at his games  than he does in Westminster Abbey with the worlds royalty .  The lads got his priorities wrong on more than one occasion and with the family wrecker in tow just gives everyone the hump as she is seen wrightly or wrongly as the one thats pulling his strings .