No power for Finland

[cromwell]

Turkey always adds confusion ,they can't even decide what continent they are on

Turkey,should tell 'em to get stuffed.

[Streetwalker]

Ok so as far as I can work.out ...

Putin has driven Finland and Sweden into the arms of NATO on the grounds they had a few decades non aligned which worked, but now it seems that won't work any more

And Turkey will veto them both because their head guy is piss d at both helping the Kurds he wants to slaughter...

I thought Turkey wasn't a fan of Syria who worship Putin as a god.

I'm getting confused.

Turkey always adds confusion ,they can't even decide what continent they are on 

[johnofgwent]

Ok so as far as I can work.out ...

Putin has driven Finland and Sweden into the arms of NATO on the grounds they had a few decades non aligned which worked, but now it seems that won't work any more

And Turkey will veto them both because their head guy is piss d at both helping the Kurds he wants to slaughter...

I thought Turkey wasn't a fan of Syria who worship Putin as a god.

I'm getting confused.

[T00ts]

It was 2 posts.  I am not complaining, but it's disappointing to see things disappear, and no mention of it, until I ask.  How would I know if an error occurred?

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[Scott777]

One,and only because itwas totally off topic.

Whatever anyone thinks (and I don't just mean you) posts are never removed for no good reason.

It was 2 posts.  I am not complaining, but it's disappointing to see things disappear, and no mention of it, until I ask.  How would I know if an error occurred?

[Scott777]

Nice try, but the fact is Russia has used denial of supply of energy as a political weapon for decades. 

I'm not sure what I was trying.  I know hypocrisy when I see it.  We have 'used' sanctions for decades.  Why is it a 'weapon' when Russia does it, but not when we do it?

[Streetwalker]

Russia is going to cut electricity to Finland - over payment problems so they say. Coincidence or the beginning of intimidation because they have decided to join NATO?

Good , the world needs to stop buying everything off of Russia . As mentioned other countries have already said they will make up any shortfall .

[cromwell]

I can't dispute that, but not the comparison being made.

Should I have received a message?  I did wonder about a few posts of mine that vanished.  🤔

One,and only because itwas totally off topic.

Whatever anyone thinks (and I don't just mean you) posts are never removed for no good reason.

[johnofgwent]

What's wrong with Russia trading with chosen customers on agreed terms?

Breaking contracts could hinder future trading deals — but that's for Russia to evaluate.

Here's hoping all such actions speed Putin's demise...

A question best put to all the yank presidents who've waged war on countries that didn't do what they were told on oil and gas, I feel.

[johnofgwent]

So if Russia cutting power is intimidation, then aren't our sanctions also intimidation?  Anyway, Turkey said they won't agree to Finland or Sweden joining NATO, and a unanimous vote is needed.

Nice try, but the fact is Russia has used denial of supply of energy as a political weapon for decades. Hardly a year goes by when some newspaper stirs up a panic in the west because Putin or whoever had the job before him wished to whip their former Warsaw pact satellites into line by the simple and highly effective means of letting the population freeze to death.

[Scott777]

Perhaps.......but not anywhere near as intimidating by invasion is it?


Still you wont see it that way will you?

I can't dispute that, but not the comparison being made.

Should I have received a message?  I did wonder about a few posts of mine that vanished.  🤔

[patman post]

What's wrong with Russia trading with chosen customers on agreed terms? 

Breaking contracts could hinder future trading deals — but that's for Russia to evaluate.

Here's hoping all such actions speed Putin's demise...

[cromwell]

So if Russia cutting power is intimidation, then aren't our sanctions also intimidation? 

Perhaps.......but not anywhere near as intimidating by invasion is it?


Still you wont see it that way will you?

[T00ts]

So it's not so dire for Finland. They only have 10% from Russia and can manage with more from Sweden and Norway and have provided for the shortage. Good for them.

[Sampanviking]

Absolutely, why should they supply countries that act in an unfriendly way and steal the money that they are supposed to pay for all the energy with?
Would we do it?
I see the Rouble is heading towards nearly 60 to the dollar. Its appreciating pretty fast, so I wonder where it will end?