When does it become child abuse?

[Streetwalker]

I believe parents can no longer request that their kids don't attend.

Im sure they can request that any teacher is qualified to do the job though . Its a specialist subject that needs specialist teachers ,not ones that leave the kids confused .

Im sure if we went back to our day when we just made it up as went along and let nature take its course everyone would be a lot happier not to mention having more fun .  

[johnofgwent]

Year 8 is I think 12-13 year olds which for me is a bit young for this type of education ,especially when it is given by unqualifed staff .
That the boys have found it a reason to bully/tease  the girl would suggest they at least are a long way off of processing the information they have been given .

Maybe the teachers should address the kids by their names and leave the grown up stuff to the parents , we are better at it though home schooling is a big step ,I would just ask the school to exclude my kids if they are talking about rainbows and suchlike .

Year eight is "form two" as I used to call it.

I recall the year very well. It was the start of several years of torture from hell which did not end until I cracked the skull of the biggest bully and as he was carted off to hospital inherited his harem, but that, to be fair was when I was almost 17 and he even older but he'd been picking on me for several years.

I recall having downed him and seeing the blood pour off his head down the wall I found the inner firepower to kick the holy shit out of four others who had bullied me physically, mentally and with miscellaneous sexual double entendres for years.

It was intensely pleasing to see them squirm in pain as I beat, kicked and cricket batted the shit and multiple other bodily fluids out of them.

The headmaster was quite stunned when I told him what had gone on for the past four years. He was in total denial almost as much as my daughter's headmaster who went to the local paper to declare there was no bullying culture at his school in the 90s and then had to explain the suicide and the shotgun incident the week after.

In short, it seems to me little has changed since the 1970s.

Melissa is now attending that same school as my daughters did, has recently discovered the joys of being female as it pertains to having to avoid the invite of jumping in her best pals  hot tub one weekend in four and has the musclepower and agility to take down any idiot who annoys her.

Only one utter Tw** has tried so far, and he found little madam skilled in inspiring all seven of her best mates in her maths class to assist her in beating him to a pulp.

I'm waiting for someone to whinge at Sarah for madams ability and eagerness to defend herself. I have the front pag s of the Argus carrying the former headmasters assurance the school had no bulling problem, and the front pages of all next week as the suicide and violence that followef it unravelled.

SO far I have not had a repeat of what I had with Sarah.

The junior school bully in top juniors picked on her best friends big brother because he was dyslexic, dyspraxic and lactose intolerant poor bastard. Sarah, then in first year infants just out of reception, saw one such incident, ran out of her playground into the juniors, raced over to the bullying git, grabbed him, whirled him round, yelled "don't you bully my best friends big brother" and nutted him despite being about five years younger. He went down like a sack lunch f spuds.

I was called to the headmasters study. Poor bugger could hardly hold a straight face.

I agreed to tell Sarah she could not headbutt a bully five years older and a foot taller even if he was beating upmher friends older brother, but that knocking him to the floor so her friend's brother could stomp him was ok in my book....

We never had trouble there again. Sports day however was ... Wierd. Bullying shit brought his mother over to the BBQ stall to meet the girl who'd put him down .....

So in summary this does not really surprise me. In 1972 there were no internet pics, the bullies if that nature had to use the blo w job pictures ripped out of their dads (and in one case mums) porn mags ...

[T00ts]

Year 8 is I think 12-13 year olds which for me is a bit young for this type of education ,especially when it is given by unqualifed staff .
That the boys have found it a reason to bully/tease  the girl would suggest they at least are a long way off of processing the information they have been given .

Maybe the teachers should address the kids by their names and leave the grown up stuff to the parents , we are better at it though home schooling is a big step ,I would just ask the school to exclude my kids if they are talking about rainbows and suchlike .

I believe parents can no longer request that their kids don't attend. 

[Streetwalker]

Year 8 is I think 12-13 year olds which for me is a bit young for this type of education ,especially when it is given by unqualifed staff . 
That the boys have found it a reason to bully/tease  the girl would suggest they at least are a long way off of processing the information they have been given .

Maybe the teachers should address the kids by their names and leave the grown up stuff to the parents , we are better at it though home schooling is a big step ,I would just ask the school to exclude my kids if they are talking about rainbows and suchlike .

[T00ts]

I had a very disturbing conversation with a Primary School teacher yesterday. One of her daughters is yr 8 at the local comprehensive and she locked herself into the school loos refusing to come out. The cause was 3 boys in her year showing her pictures of both male and female genitals asking which she preferred.

The fact that this happened in the middle of a maths lesson is one disturbing aspect which obviously needs some questioning but the conversation went on the question the whole LGBT being covered in schools. The daughter pushed the boys aside but that simply led to them deciding that as she didn't approve of either then she must be bisexual. I understand that each subject teacher is asking these kids how they wish to be addressed as a matter of course.

She has 5 children from 6th form down to Primary school and told me that it is really causing her and her husband concern to the point that they are actively considering home schooling. Her older kids suggest that it is much worse for the girls than the boys but it seems that there is increasing pressure to choose who you are at an age when most of us would accept that they are too young to make any such major decisions in life. 

A the title suggests at what point does this become child abuse and how many parents are now beginning to worry about the consequences for their children?