Harry and Meghan to repay £2.4m for refurbishment of

[cromwell]

Have you so quickly forgotten how BOTH his parents were superb manipulators of the press to put their own agenda.

Yes they did John,backfired though didn't it

Like I said in every other post, this country should see the abdcation of queen elizabeth on age grounds n very, very short order and this should have been done years, no decades ago. FFS her husband looks like he's ready to join the undead if he has not already.

We're both steadily going that way aren't we John?

Charlie should equally piss off and take the odious bitch he was shagging behind diana's back with him and hand the job to william who should be told in the strongest possible terms to hand the job on as soon as his eldest reaches the point he himself now is.



My rationale for this is the simple fact that the job of constitutional head of state of this country is a job for a YOUNG king or queen who can be seen by the public as ready for the job. Hanging round waiting for your mum or dad to pop their clogs is no way to run a country.

Oh blimey John I'm nearly as old as him should Bazmin tell me to sod off 'cos it's no way to run a forum,mind none of my family would be remotely interested in being a mod ::  ::



Seriously though age isn't always a barrier to doing a good job and in a hereditary one you can unforunately get stuck with someone like big ears.

I am a republican at heart but couldn't stomach a president Bliar Major or any of the clapped out tossers that would love the job.



I thought old Harry had shown his independence by marrying her and the fact he chose a woman of mixed race then good for him, that she should've gone in to this with her eyes wide open and can't have been blind to the whole Diana saga is what I find so odd in all this.



If he'd have married her and said at the time right that's it I'm orf with my new bride and doing my own thing I'd have respected that I somehow get the feeling he's been manipulated in to all this.



I don't give a toss what someone looks like their race or whatever if as in this case they do what they do well for money received (and before some smartarse points out then why do you call Charlie big ears it's a long story and about a bloke who was threatened with imprisonment for putting two large sticky out ears on his house,so yeah bloody hypocrite :-P )

As to Harry, well, i blame Liz and Phil for their utterly disastrous experiment in widening the membership of the working senior royals. Had they not proceeded to hand public duties and public money for them to the contingent they have, her children other than Charles, and their children and various minor relatives could have enjoyed splendid anonymity apart from appearances at charitable and sporting events.  If this whole business triggers a return to that condition, then I am grateful for his instigating this.

Good point John

[johnofgwent]

You have to remember that Harry spent his formative years watching his mother being hounded by the press and paparazzi (and while I suspect she sometimes did court the attention, she still ultimately ended up dead as an (indirect) result of action taken by them) and dislikes them intensely. I get the feeling he just wants to be normal. Coupled with that, the wife he chose is an extremely strong independent woman, who has intrigued many, and the situation was never going to end well.



He's never seemed to cope well with public attention, but up until his marriage he seemed to use it to his advantage and promote his charity work using it. As a mother, I can sympathise that now he is a father he wants to protect his son (and wife) from the circus that became his mothers life. I for one will never forget the sight of him walking behind her coffin, and I wish wholeheartedly he had been excused that. Maybe he wanted to do it, I suppose we will never know, but if it was so, he should have been talked out of it.



One of the biggest complaints from the public was about the gross amount of money spend at Frogmore so whether he, she, the Queen, his Dad or whoever pay it back, they have made the gesture.



I have doubts about how much of a normal life they can have, but I say let them try.

Have you so quickly forgotten how BOTH his parents were superb manipulators of the press to put their own agenda.



Like I said in every other post, this country should see the abdcation of queen elizabeth on age grounds n very, very short order and this should have been done years, no decades ago. FFS her husband looks like he's ready to join the undead if he has not already.



Charlie should equally piss off and take the odious bitch he was shagging behind diana's back with him and hand the job to william who should be told in the strongest possible terms to hand the job on as soon as his eldest reaches the point he himself now is.



My rationale for this is the simple fact that the job of constitutional head of state of this country is a job for a YOUNG king or queen who can be seen by the public as ready for the job. Hanging round waiting for your mum or dad to pop their clogs is no way to run a country.



As to Harry, well, i blame Liz and Phil for their utterly disastrous experiment in widening the membership of the working senior royals. Had they not proceeded to hand public duties and public money for them to the contingent they have, her children other than Charles, and their children and various minor relatives could have enjoyed splendid anonymity apart from appearances at charitable and sporting events.  If this whole business triggers a return to that condition, then I am grateful for his instigating this.

[johnofgwent]

I agree entirely but... Is it possible that he knows that he is not the spawn of Charlie but Major what ever his name was (zero royal blood) and that is what he has threatened to blab on ABC or Fox if he doesn't get his way? Queenie doesn't strike me as the type to aqueous that easily and she seems to have rolled over remarkably quickly to have her belly tickled. Is this what him and William have fallen out about?



I'm sure the royal estate will float a few Shekels his way in payment for his silence, he will of course be there for Her birthday, on the balcony for the Trooping etc. Or am I just an ole cynic? 😉

Even THE SUN admits https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3075298/james-hewitt-prince-harry-dad-affair-princess-diana/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3075298/j ... ess-diana/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3075298/james-hewitt-prince-harry-dad-affair-princess-diana/ than



"Harry was born on September 15, 1984, which means he was conceived around Christmas 1983, when his brother, William, was 18 months old.



"Diana did not meet James Hewitt until the summer of 1986.



The "but ffs take a look at the two of them" doesn't wash against things like that.

[Major Sinic]

I don't suppose they will repay it. I suspect the Queen will. They are supposed to pay rent in future since they will have Frogmore as their UK  home. With Megan eyeing up £21m houses their cash won't go so far. I also suspect that the RF will simply wait and give them enough rope initially just to see how they behave. I am fairly sure the screws will be tightened if they try to commercialise them. Surely they can't retain Sussex Royal.



I don't think for a minute that this will be the end. Poor Harry is on self destruct. He will be right out of his depth poor lad. They will be careful to be able to pick up the pieces when Megan gets bored of him.

I think that the RF's advisors will recognise that it is not possible for the RF to retain its institutional credibility, if Harry is granted any concessions which compromise the reputation of the RF itself. They simply cannot be seen to endorse Harry and Meghan swanning around N.America as socialites trading on the RF. If Harry rejects the obligations and  duties of being a senior member of the RF he must also accept the loss of privileges which includes houses renovated at a cost to the taxpayer, HRH titles, private jets and security protection paid for by others and any payouts from the public purse.



Personally I think that we have a media in this country desperate to fill its 24/7 timeline, and they will create news where it doesn't exist to fill its column inches and its hours of banal broadcasting. The RF has long needed slimming down and the more the RF leeches can be dissuaded from sucking metaphorically speaking from the Monarch' s or the taxpayers nipple the better, and I speak as a steadfast loyalist.

[Major Sinic]

I agree entirely but... Is it possible that he knows that he is not the spawn of Charlie but Major what ever his name was (zero royal blood) and that is what he has threatened to blab on ABC or Fox if he doesn't get his way? Queenie doesn't strike me as the type to aqueous that easily and she seems to have rolled over remarkably quickly to have her belly tickled. Is this what him and William have fallen out about?



I'm sure the royal estate will float a few Shekels his way in payment for his silence, he will of course be there for Her birthday, on the balcony for the Trooping etc. Or am I just an ole cynic? 😉

This old conspiracy theory keeps rearing its uncredible head. I have no doubt whatever that Harry was blood tested very early in his life to confirm beyond doubt that he was Charles son. The fact that it was common knowledge that Diana had an affair with Major Hewitt would , at least with one other, would guarantee this. Had he not been Charles's son, he would quietly have been lost in the RF's hinterland.

[Bright Young Thing]

I agree entirely but... Is it possible that he knows that he is not the spawn of Charlie but Major what ever his name was (zero royal blood) and that is what he has threatened to blab on ABC or Fox if he doesn't get his way? Queenie doesn't strike me as the type to aqueous that easily and she seems to have rolled over remarkably quickly to have her belly tickled. Is this what him and William have fallen out about?



I'm sure the royal estate will float a few Shekels his way in payment for his silence, he will of course be there for Her birthday, on the balcony for the Trooping etc. Or am I just an ole cynic? 😉

Years ago I'd have agreed he was more Hewitt than Bigears, but as he's got older I think he looks very like Charles. I also suspect they will keep his pockets lined, but IIRC he has his own money from his mother too, and she must have money from her ex career......which I'd put money on her going back to. Chat show with a Royal?? It's an American's wet dream surely??

[Nick]

You have to remember that Harry spent his formative years watching his mother being hounded by the press and paparazzi (and while I suspect she sometimes did court the attention, she still ultimately ended up dead as an (indirect) result of action taken by them) and dislikes them intensely. I get the feeling he just wants to be normal. Coupled with that, the wife he chose is an extremely strong independent woman, who has intrigued many, and the situation was never going to end well.



He's never seemed to cope well with public attention, but up until his marriage he seemed to use it to his advantage and promote his charity work using it. As a mother, I can sympathise that now he is a father he wants to protect his son (and wife) from the circus that became his mothers life. I for one will never forget the sight of him walking behind her coffin, and I wish wholeheartedly he had been excused that. Maybe he wanted to do it, I suppose we will never know, but if it was so, he should have been talked out of it.



One of the biggest complaints from the public was about the gross amount of money spend at Frogmore so whether he, she, the Queen, his Dad or whoever pay it back, they have made the gesture.



I have doubts about how much of a normal life they can have, but I say let them try.

I agree entirely but... Is it possible that he knows that he is not the spawn of Charlie but Major what ever his name was (zero royal blood) and that is what he has threatened to blab on ABC or Fox if he doesn't get his way? Queenie doesn't strike me as the type to aqueous that easily and she seems to have rolled over remarkably quickly to have her belly tickled. Is this what him and William have fallen out about?



I'm sure the royal estate will float a few Shekels his way in payment for his silence, he will of course be there for Her birthday, on the balcony for the Trooping etc. Or am I just an ole cynic? 😉

[Bright Young Thing]

You have to remember that Harry spent his formative years watching his mother being hounded by the press and paparazzi (and while I suspect she sometimes did court the attention, she still ultimately ended up dead as an (indirect) result of action taken by them) and dislikes them intensely. I get the feeling he just wants to be normal. Coupled with that, the wife he chose is an extremely strong independent woman, who has intrigued many, and the situation was never going to end well.



He's never seemed to cope well with public attention, but up until his marriage he seemed to use it to his advantage and promote his charity work using it. As a mother, I can sympathise that now he is a father he wants to protect his son (and wife) from the circus that became his mothers life. I for one will never forget the sight of him walking behind her coffin, and I wish wholeheartedly he had been excused that. Maybe he wanted to do it, I suppose we will never know, but if it was so, he should have been talked out of it.



One of the biggest complaints from the public was about the gross amount of money spend at Frogmore so whether he, she, the Queen, his Dad or whoever pay it back, they have made the gesture.



I have doubts about how much of a normal life they can have, but I say let them try.

[T00ts]

Frogmore Cottage



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I don't suppose they will repay it. I suspect the Queen will. They are supposed to pay rent in future since they will have Frogmore as their UK  home. With Megan eyeing up £21m houses their cash won't go so far. I also suspect that the RF will simply wait and give them enough rope initially just to see how they behave. I am fairly sure the screws will be tightened if they try to commercialise them. Surely they can't retain Sussex Royal.



I don't think for a minute that this will be the end. Poor Harry is on self destruct. He will be right out of his depth poor lad. They will be careful to be able to pick up the pieces when Megan gets bored of him.

[Borchester]

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