Tory leadership front runners

[srb7677]

I can't say that I am a particular fan of any of them. But Starmer really is a graceless hog and Truss has been a Brexiter longer than Sir Stodge. And Truss wants to cut taxes so I feel slightly less repulsed by the Tories than the Brothers and Sisters.
The Tories have started to climb back in the polls. Not by much, 32% to Labour's 41%. Still, it is better than it was.

I could be wrong but I doubt there will be a major upswing in Tory fortunes in the polls until the leadership is decided.

Then it will depend upon how credible the leader appears, how popular his or her direction is combined with how credible that looks, how much of a clean break from Boris he or she appears to be, and how good a conference he or she has.

It is possible the Tories may enjoy a poll bounce when the new leader is decided.

It is certainly difficult to see what Sir Wet Lettuce is offering as an alternative. His only consistent policy thus far appears to have been not being Boris. The new Tory leader will now steal that policy, leaving the question what is sir Wet Lettuce for?

[GerryT]

No mention of your long lost EU rights.

Here's one for you

Your Govt changed the law so that employers can employee temporary staff to fill positions of striking employees. And this is from the man that was preaching to P&O ferries not so long ago.

https://twitter.com/KwasiKwarteng/status/1550081224890351617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550081224890351617%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fdiscussion%2F2058058007%2Fgeneral-british-politics-discussion-thread%2Fp192


Is this a benefit of brexit, the chipping away of workers rights begins.

[Borchester]

All we are saying, is, give peace Elizabeth a chance. People do sometimes rise to the occasion and become a better person.
Not that I'm a massive fan of the Tories any more. They've defecated all over us.

I can't say that I am a particular fan of any of them. But Starmer really is a graceless hog and Truss has been a Brexiter longer than Sir Stodge. And Truss wants to cut taxes so I feel slightly less repulsed by the Tories than the Brothers and Sisters.
The Tories have started to climb back in the polls. Not by much, 32% to Labour's 41%. Still, it is better than it was.

[GerryT]

It look like Liz Truss has a runaway lead in the race to be PM.

I have a habit of damning people with faint praise. So, in her favour I'll say that she's got a 55% chance of being a better prime minister than Boris Johnson.

She has better odds than that, Johnson was the worst ever, in any country. If you fell over you would still go over that bar.

[GerryT]

But Gerry, we need Elizabeth just as much as you need Michael D. Higgins as president.

Agh, I've no real issue with traditions like that. I don't agree with the idea of royalty, one person being better than the other because of birth, but the royal family do attract a lot of tourism to the UK. I wonder how poor Andrew is doing in all that hot weather, poor chap unable to sweat

[GerryT]

Liberal democrat votes most likely, they have lost the populist vote. We were much too clever for them anyway.

Can't be that clever if you're switching to vote for Truss 

[Nick]

We all know the EU is not a sovereign state and is never likely to be one.  It's a co-operative body set up by the states that were members at the various stages of its evolution.  EU citizenship is a real thing that exists by consent of the member states.  You can argue all you like that there's no such thing as EU citizenship but that doesn't mean you're right.  It's a bit like saying that Monmouthshire is part of England when it's actually part of Wales and is likely to remain that way.

No mention of your long lost EU rights.

[Barry]

It look like Liz Truss has a runaway lead in the race to be PM.

I have a habit of damning people with faint praise. So, in her favour I'll say that she's got a 55% chance of being a better prime minister than Boris Johnson.

All we are saying, is, give peace Elizabeth a chance. People do sometimes rise to the occasion and become a better person.
Not that I'm a massive fan of the Tories any more. They've defecated all over us.

[HDQQ]

I can't believe people on here are actually considering Truss as someone that could do the Job. Jesus the Tory party is in a bad way.
Sunak looks like he could, he didn't cause brexit but isn't taxes necessary to generate revenue, not very popular but isn't this what people voted for, regain sovereignty above everything else, taxes as it seems.
You could vote in Truss, who's promising sweeties for all the children (sounds familiar....a outgoing liar ?) and as soon as she's in...BOOM... raise taxes, probably in a round about way.

It look like Liz Truss has a runaway lead in the race to be PM. 

I have a habit of damning people with faint praise. So, in her favour I'll say that she's got a 55% chance of being a better prime minister than Boris Johnson. 

[HDQQ]

Ok I'm going to stick my oar in

HDQQ has for years bewailed the loss of "EU citizenship" which is of course a piece of flannel, a hogwash because there is no such thing as a sovereign state called the European Union and until there is (which please god I never live to see) there can be no "citizenship" if such. The term is misused by fundamentalist federationists to warp the citizenship of a sovereign state that signed up to the EU's bullshittery into something it isn't.

There is no labour shortage

There is a glut of idle bastards and a glut of businessmen keen not to pay a decent rate for the job.

We all know the EU is not a sovereign state and is never likely to be one.  It's a co-operative body set up by the states that were members at the various stages of its evolution.  EU citizenship is a real thing that exists by consent of the member states.  You can argue all you like that there's no such thing as EU citizenship but that doesn't mean you're right.  It's a bit like saying that Monmouthshire is part of England when it's actually part of Wales and is likely to remain that way.

[Barry]

I can't believe people on here are actually considering Truss as someone that could do the Job. Jesus the Tory party is in a bad way.
Sunak looks like he could, he didn't cause brexit but isn't taxes necessary to generate revenue, not very popular but isn't this what people voted for, regain sovereignty above everything else, taxes as it seems.
You could vote in Truss, who's promising sweeties for all the children (sounds familiar....a outgoing liar ?) and as soon as she's in...BOOM... raise taxes, probably in a round about way.

But Gerry, we need Elizabeth just as much as you need Michael D. Higgins as president.

[Sheepy]

I can't believe people on here are actually considering Truss as someone that could do the Job. Jesus the Tory party is in a bad way.
Sunak looks like he could, he didn't cause brexit but isn't taxes necessary to generate revenue, not very popular but isn't this what people voted for, regain sovereignty above everything else, taxes as it seems.
You could vote in Truss, who's promising sweeties for all the children (sounds familiar....a outgoing liar ?) and as soon as she's in...BOOM... raise taxes, probably in a round about way.

Liberal democrat votes most likely, they have lost the populist vote. We were much too clever for them anyway.

[Streetwalker]

Ok I'm going to stick my oar in

HDQQ has for years bewailed the loss of "EU citizenship" which is of course a piece of flannel, a hogwash because there is no such thing as a sovereign state called the European Union and until there is (which please god I never live to see) there can be no "citizenship" if such. The term is misused by fundamentalist federationists to warp the citizenship of a sovereign state that signed up to the EU's bullshittery into something it isn't.

Almost  anyone can claim the fake identity  if they really wanted to , I dont know what they are moaning about 

[johnofgwent]

What rights have you lost Ducky that you ever in your life used?
The labour shortage is global, I'm fairly sure I've pointed this out on many occasions, from Asia to the USA the situation is the same. What EU regulations do we HAVE to follow?

Ok I'm going to stick my oar in

HDQQ has for years bewailed the loss of "EU citizenship" which is of course a piece of flannel, a hogwash because there is no such thing as a sovereign state called the European Union and until there is (which please god I never live to see) there can be no "citizenship" if such. The term is misused by fundamentalist federationists to warp the citizenship of a sovereign state that signed up to the EU's bullshittery into something it isn't. 

There is no labour shortage
 
There is a glut of idle bastards and a glut of businessmen keen not to pay a decent rate for the job.

[GerryT]

I can't believe people on here are actually considering Truss as someone that could do the Job. Jesus the Tory party is in a bad way. 
Sunak looks like he could, he didn't cause brexit but isn't taxes necessary to generate revenue, not very popular but isn't this what people voted for, regain sovereignty above everything else, taxes as it seems.
You could vote in Truss, who's promising sweeties for all the children (sounds familiar....a outgoing liar ?) and as soon as she's in...BOOM... raise taxes, probably in a round about way.