Your top ten policies.

[Nick]

Why does it always seem to be oldies opposing lowering the voting age?

What does a 16 year old know about anything? 75% of 16 year olds are still in school. 

[Nick]

Thank heavens for small mercies, .

Anyway, want to entertain me with your own top ten policies?

This thread could do with some comedy.

• VAT down to 15%
• Flat rate income tax @ 20% on anything above personal allowance. 
• Minimum prices allocated to all U.K. produce. This will stop the likes of Tesco squeezing the life out of farmers. 
• A cap on benefits payable to any one household. Households with 4 or 5 claimants getting £30K+ in benefits will be a thing of the past. Benefits would be paid in such a way as to limit the amount of non-essential items that can be purchased. Booze, fags, SKY TV etc. 
• Road tax scrapped and added to the price of fuel, the more you use the more you pay. 
• Local Authorities and Police would have to justify every speed camera. Sticking them up just as cash cows would end. 
• INDY2 would be granted with the whole of the U.K. getting a vote. 
• NHS would be run like it used to be, with matrons on the wards. NHS contracts would be scrapped and a proper system put in place. 

[T00ts]

Why does it always seem to be oldies opposing lowering the voting age?

Do you feel that the average 16 yr old is really interested in politics enough to make a really informed decision or are they only really able to do as they are 'advised'? 
I find your 10 policies quite worrying as there seems to be no balance. Where are the policies for encouragement for business or invention or entrepreneurship? Someone has to create some sort of wealth for people to have jobs or income.

[srb7677]

Why does it always seem to be oldies opposing lowering the voting age?

[cromwell]

This thread is an opportunity for any members to put forward the top ten policies they would most like to see implemented, in no particular order.

Here's mine...

1. Nationalise the water, gas, electricity, and railway companies.

2. Abolish university tuition fees and replace with a graduate tax, to be levied on all who went to university, including freeloading politicians like Blair.

3. Rent control and security of tenure in the private rental sector.

4. Massively ramp up social housing construction whilst restricting the right to buy.

5. Abolish excessively exploitative employment contracts like faux self-employment, the gig economy, and zero hours.

6. Amend the taper for Universal Credit clawback to make it more generous and link it with taxation, so that no one loses more than 40p for every £1 earned.

7. Make pay rises in line with inflation a mandatory minimum unless ballotted employees agree otherwise.

8. Raise the minimum wage to the level of the real living wage.

9. Introduce PR for national and local elections.

10. Lower the voting age to 16

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I could easily have come up with dozens more but I said ten.

I agree with most of that bar 3 and 10,no 4 makes 3 redundant,almost.
9 requires a lot of thought but ain't a bad idea fptp brought a lot to the table,except many carpetbaggers.

[Borchester]

Judging by that lot, I wouldn't bother if I were you

But in the same spirit, how does this grab you? Make all pensioners such as yourself who are capable of working work instead of leeching off the taxes of hard-working families. And if their frailties make them less valuable in the workplace they should be paid less.

Disclaimer. This is not to be taken any more seriously tham Borkie's moonshine.

A good idea in theory, not so good in practice.

A lot of cottontops are pretty fit and over the years have found ways of doing most jobs easier and faster. You have spoken of getting an allotment when you retire Steve. Well, next time you are on one have a look at the other plot holders. Most of them are ten years older than God, spend most of their time in deckchairs and still manage to produce industrial quantities of fruit and veg.

The problem is that us oldies also know how to play the system, so you would be surprised how little work you get out of us.

No disclaimer. I am dead serious

[srb7677]

I can't think of anything else right now, but will be back when I have.

Judging by that lot, I wouldn't bother if I were you

But in the same spirit, how does this grab you? Make all pensioners such as yourself who are capable of working work instead of leeching off the taxes of hard-working families. And if their frailties make them less valuable in the workplace they should be paid less.

Disclaimer. This is not to be taken any more seriously tham Borkie's moonshine.

[Borchester]

This thread is an opportunity for any members to put forward the top ten policies they would most like to see implemented, in no particular order.

Here's mine...

1. Nationalise the water, gas, electricity, and railway companies.

2. Abolish university tuition fees and replace with a graduate tax, to be levied on all who went to university, including freeloading politicians like Blair.

3. Rent control and security of tenure in the private rental sector.

4. Massively ramp up social housing construction whilst restricting the right to buy.

5. Abolish excessively exploitative employment contracts like faux self-employment, the gig economy, and zero hours.

6. Amend the taper for Universal Credit clawback to make it more generous and link it with taxation, so that no one loses more than 40p for every £1 earned.

7. Make pay rises in line with inflation a mandatory minimum unless ballotted employees agree otherwise.

8. Raise the minimum wage to the level of the real living wage.

9. Introduce PR for national and local elections.

10. Lower the voting age to 16

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I could easily have come up with dozens more but I said ten.

1/ Massive investments in State Education.

It never works and most of the money is wasted  on middle class socialists dreaming up new causes to feel guilty about, with the result that standards fall. But the worse things get the more call upon me and mine for private tuition so state interference in education is to be encouraged.

2/ Sell off all council housing.

I have changed light bulbs for mates in Council properties. Council housing costs a fortune to maintain and more and more the tenants are social security cases who would not take their coats off for anyone, let alone themselves.

3/ Cancel the minimum wage

If someone is badly paid it is because he is isn't worth more. If he wants more money get a better job. I sure as hell don't want to fund his incompetence

4/ Make it a crime to say, "I am poor"

Folk who go on about how poor they are sound as though they have done something clever or that it is all someone else's fault. So the best thing to do is smack them in the face with a cricket bat until they learn some self respect.

I can't think of anything else right now, but will be back when I have.

[Good old]

I assume you're not old enough to remember how bad British Rail was Steve?

I remember BR from way back late forties even. It was never perfect, but it was never that bad either..
Time tables were just as or more reliable than now. With more frequent service. Cheap excursions were commonplace. Commuting was crowded  ,but when was it not, and cheap to the point it barely scratched an average wage. Long distance,, short  was always affordable . The only time I recall services seriously disrupted was in the very worst of weather now just about anything causes everything to stop. No it wasn't perfect , or as smart to look at or sit in, but it didn't cost the earth, and it was of more use to the public in general than it is now.
If we are to make comparisons, it should not be ,to BR, it should be to the various European services that knock ours into a cocked hat., on almost all counts.

[srb7677]

It's a damn site cleaner now.

Thank heavens for small mercies, .

Anyway, want to entertain me with your own top ten policies?

This thread could do with some comedy.

[Nick]

I am 57 so of course am old enough to remember British Rail. I travelled on it from time to time, including on week riders all over Devon and Cornwall as a kid.

And the service was underfunded yet still a lot cheaper and far better integrated. Since privatisation far more tax payers money has disappeared into it every year, yet fares are the highest in the western world, with service and reliability often very poor.

So I don't think it is any better today but is a lot more expensive both for passengers and taxpayers.

It's a damn site cleaner now. 

[srb7677]

I assume you're not old enough to remember how bad British Rail was Steve?

I am 57 so of course am old enough to remember British Rail. I travelled on it from time to time, including on week riders all over Devon and Cornwall as a kid.

And the service was underfunded yet still a lot cheaper and far better integrated. Since privatisation far more tax payers money has disappeared into it every year, yet fares are the highest in the western world, with service and reliability often very poor.

So I don't think it is any better today but is a lot more expensive both for passengers and taxpayers.

[Nick]

This thread is an opportunity for any members to put forward the top ten policies they would most like to see implemented, in no particular order.

Here's mine...

1. Nationalise the water, gas, electricity, and railway companies.

2. Abolish university tuition fees and replace with a graduate tax, to be levied on all who went to university, including freeloading politicians like Blair.

3. Rent control and security of tenure in the private rental sector.

4. Massively ramp up social housing construction whilst restricting the right to buy.

5. Abolish excessively exploitative employment contracts like faux self-employment, the gig economy, and zero hours.

6. Amend the taper for Universal Credit clawback to make it more generous and link it with taxation, so that no one loses more than 40p for every £1 earned.

7. Make pay rises in line with inflation a mandatory minimum unless ballotted employees agree otherwise.

8. Raise the minimum wage to the level of the real living wage.

9. Introduce PR for national and local elections.

10. Lower the voting age to 16

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I could easily have come up with dozens more but I said ten.

I assume you're not old enough to remember how bad British Rail was Steve?

Oxbridge was not even in the top 20 universities before tuition fees, they are now 2nd and 3rd in the world. 

Putting in rent control will only ensure that there are way more empty flats, why would you rent out an apartment when you're losing money? 

All very naive and typical socialist policies Steve, showing a lack of understanding. 

[srb7677]

This thread is an opportunity for any members to put forward the top ten policies they would most like to see implemented, in no particular order.

Here's mine...

1. Nationalise the water, gas, electricity, and railway companies.

2. Abolish university tuition fees and replace with a graduate tax, to be levied on all who went to university, including freeloading politicians like Blair.

3. Rent control and security of tenure in the private rental sector.

4. Massively ramp up social housing construction whilst restricting the right to buy.

5. Abolish excessively exploitative employment contracts like faux self-employment, the gig economy, and zero hours.

6. Amend the taper for Universal Credit clawback to make it more generous and link it with taxation, so that no one loses more than 40p for every £1 earned.

7. Make pay rises in line with inflation a mandatory minimum unless ballotted employees agree otherwise.

8. Raise the minimum wage to the level of the real living wage.

9. Introduce PR for national and local elections.

10. Lower the voting age to 16

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I could easily have come up with dozens more but I said ten.